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If course I quickly acknowledged it, so my phone would stop wailing, so missed the details.

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[-] TSG_Asmodeus@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

I am incredibly saddened, but not surprised, by the complaints about a loud warning on their phone to watch for missing children in their province.

[-] ramjambamalam@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Some ceiticism is justified. A missing child is an emergency, no doubt. However, within the category of emergencies, there are varying levels of urgency. The cell phone emergency alert system has different levels of urgency, but Canada's implementation always uses the highest level, called "Presidential". Have you ever heard the expression, "if everything is high priority, then nothing is high priority?"

I'm not sure that waking a sleeping person is helpful to the goal of returning a child home safely. However, a sleeping person probably should be woken up if, for example:

  • a tornado, wildfire, or hurricaine is heading towards them

  • there's an armed and dangerous person in their area

  • another nation has launched an attack in their area

My concern is that people are finding ways to mute sounds on all alerts just to avoid having their sleep disturbed by emergent but not top-urgency alerts like missing children alerts, and they may miss missing children alerts during their waking hours as well, or even be put at risk in the case of natural disaster, dangerous manhunt, or foreign attack – the intended use case for the highest, Presidential priority of alert.

I suppose one benefit of waking everyone up could be that someone saw something earlier, and contacts authorities with the information they have sooner, rather than waking up and seeing the alert in the morning.

I'm curious to know your thoughts. Do you think it's more helpful than harmful to have missing children alerts sent on the highest possible priority? I'm keeping an open mind here.

[-] PuddingFeeling907@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

I just got one at 11:00 o'clock at NIGHT. It was the second I got today. Those air sirens scare the hell out of me. why cant they just reserve the warning noise for natural diasters. I'm okay with getting amber alerts notifications on everyone's phone but theres so no need to play such a spine chilling sound effect.

[-] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

The standard that the alert system is based on has different levels of severity defined, but for unknown reasons the implementation that Canada settled on only uses the most serious level for all alerts.

The mechanism for differentiating types of alerts exists, it just needs to be used.

[-] corminsterfullerene@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago

I want to opt out of amber alerts. Unless it is targeted to a geographic areas and I consent, stop wasting my time and trying to kill me.

100% of the time, I have not seen your child.

[-] MapleEngineer@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm so sick and fucking tired of you assholes pissing and moaning about amber alerts. Someone's kid is missing. If it was your kid I would want to get the alert in case I was the person who just happened to be standing in front of them in a convenience store or on the street.

Pull your head out of your ass and grow up.

[-] corminsterfullerene@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

Relevance matters or everyone stops listening. It is not appropriate to spam an entire province.

[-] Rodeo@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago

So when you get an amber alert do you jump out of bed and start running down the street looking for children?

I didn't think so.

[-] MapleEngineer@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No, I take a quick look at the alert and if it doesn't apply to me I go back to sleep like an adult, why, what do you do?

[-] lildictator@feddit.nl 1 points 1 year ago

I am a light sleeper, whenever I have been woken up by these alerts I've been unable to sleep again for the remainder of the night. Not everybody can fall asleep easily like you do.

And since you feel so angrily about the subject, perhaps you wouldn't be so grumpy if you had a good night's sleep.

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