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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by Guster@lemmy.world to c/android@lemmy.world

Back in the day - rooting Android phones and installing custom ROMs were such a big part of Android. I remember so well using titanium backup and Greenify and Cyanogenmod and the list goes on.

Is it still necessary to root in 2023 though?

I have been on vanilla Android without root access for the past couple of years and at this point most root features have made it into the vanilla Android OS. What are your thoughts?

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[-] jacktherippah@lemdro.id 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't root anymore, not since I switched to GrapheneOS. It breaks the Android security model. On GrapheneOS it's like fortifying a castle and then blowing a wide open hole in the wall. Just didn't make any sense.

[-] MajorHavoc@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Same here.

Anyway, it's not an arms race against the vendor anymore on GrapheneOS. Root is just a toggle switch I control, now.

[-] TwoGems@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

So I can Degoogle my phone with Graphene OS?

[-] flossdaily@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Not at all.

I used to root all my phones going back to the HTC Incredible. You had to, if you wanted great UI, or locked-out functionally like wifi hotspotting.

These days my phone does everything I want right out of the box.

I guess I'd still consider rooting on order to do a debloat, but with onboard storage being what it is, I really don't care that I'm only disabling and hiding the bloat.

[-] kratoz29@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

For me yes, I can tweak my system at my liking, root breaking things is not something that has ever happened to me, all my bank app works without issues and I can't remember the last time they didn't.

I run Paranoid Android rooted along with tons of apps that require root acces such as Swift Backup, Adaway, App Manager, BBS, FKM, KonaBess, Pixelifly for Google Photos, Saver Tuner, Revanced, SD Maid, Termux, X-Plore etc.

And some modules like Zygisk, Detach, Pixel Launcher Extended

I know some of those apps doesn't require root specifically (can work with adb) but for me is just easier to just put Magisk and call it a day.

[-] Gamey@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

If you want to use your phone for a few years it's very nececary in my experience, they tend to get slow quick and with LineageOS (previously Cyanogenmod) I can still use a Galaxy s5, well I could if half of the hardware wasn't broken but that's beside the point. I think ROMs are definitely neccecary but mine isn't rooted rn and it's probably debatable if you realky need that, I miss a proper adblocker so I should have rooted mine and probably will sooner or later considering I got Lineage on it already.

[-] jz68@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I haven't even thought about rooting a phone in probably 10 years now.

[-] Magister@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I did with my old samsung, motorola, asus, nokia. But my last phone, PoCo F3, no, especially because it's difficult to have a working Google Wallet with unlocked bootloader/root. I did it with my asus zenphone and nokia, but damn it broke every few weeks with a google update, and you needed to patch after patch after faking stuff and magisk addons etc for it to run a couple of weeks and BAM! Google Pay was disabled again... very annoying.

On my F3 I disabled/uninstalled unwanted apps with a debloater and I'm using Firefox for browsing. No need to root yet. When I'll change phone I'll root the old one.

[-] amenotef@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I haven't rooted in a long time. But if you tell me there is an app out there that can restrict or deny apps background usage (to increase deep sleep state %) and that you can only do it with root.

Then I'd say root might be necessary in those situations.

For example WhatsApp is the number one standby battery drainer in my phone. If I check partial wakelocks like 70% of them have the WhatsApp logo. (In BBS app). If I had a way to reduce them by 90% just keeping new messages and call working and root is needed for that then I'd want to root my phone.

I tried "Apps Ops" and it let me deny some of the permission. But maybe there is something more restrictive out there that needs root.

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[-] beta_tester@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

I'd love to root my pixel (grapheneos) because the tiles are just crap but I don't want to mess with grapheneos' security. If I'd do that, I could judt go with another brand and have awesome tiles by default.

[-] gobbling871@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Necessary for me to fix the "bugs" present in Android (Safetynet fix, F-droid & Aurora auto updates etc.) and some from the OEM (flawed camera libs from Xiaomi that unintentionally hamper the use of Gcam).

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