Who is blaming immigrants? Seriously, I haven't seen that take.
You could put part of the blame on immigration targets/the system though. It's not "RaCiSt" to know that if you don't have enough housing as it is, that adding more people who needs homes won't help the issue (unless they are all here to build homes?).
I feel like I'm taking crazy pills when I need to explain to adults how addition and subtraction works.
If you go on Canada Reddit it’s every other comment on housing
I imagine Facebook and Twitter are the same
I'm getting the sense that people are mixing up blaming the individuals coming here for a better life, vs blaming the systems that brought them here knowing full well we simply don't have a place for them until we actually get around to building it...
I'm all for immigration. So let's fucking build some places for these people to live, and then bring them over. Why is this so hard for people to understand?
Immigrants are at least partly to blame for the pressures. I mean, it's impossible they're NOT impacting the cost of housing. If you add 400,000 people to a country and do not add 400,000 units of new housing that year, you're in a deficit. It's Grade 1 math.
But what is genuinely to blame is a cogent political strategy to house Canadians. We can't just leave it to the private sector to maximize profits. We can't expect homeowners to make secondary suites. We can't do nothing.
Cutting immigration is a sure-fire way to prevent over-demand for a scarce resource. It may sound right-wing but that's the way it goes.
Well, if you bring in 400k immigrants and build 400k housing units You're probably not that much in a deficit since a lot of those immigrants will be families living together.
But as I understand it last year we brought in 1,000,000 immigrants and only built 250k housing units so every one of those immigrants would need to be a family of four just to fill those, let alone any increase in natural reproduction within Canada, so we very likely did have quite a deficit.
You got a source for that 1,000,000? Pretty sure it was quite literally the first number you put in the comment.
Your correct, I mistook the total growth of the country instead.. It was 440k immigrants contributing to the total growth of 1,000,000 people in Canada for 2022.
And it averages out to approximately 200k - 250k housing units per year.
The nothing-doing will continue until policy improves.
In recent years Canada has experienced absurdly rapid growth in total population by any standard. It doesn't matter that much of it is from immigration, that's beside the point. Even without any immigrants the population would've been growing still. It's already grown to levels that stretch our natural resources per capita much thinner than they used to be. I remember even in my youth, in the 1980s, my father pointing at the vast new suburbs surrounding his hometown and lamenting how much of the best farmland had already been paved over. Growth like this cannot continue, it's got to stop at some point. Slowing it down a little would be nice, if we have that power. It wouldn't magically fix all our problems with housing and everything else, but it sure wouldn't hurt. It would at least buy us time to learn how to do development in less environmentally destructive ways.
On the other hand, borders suck and I'd prefer to live in a world without any. It's a dilemma keenly felt and little understood even in Canada where it's endlessly discussed.
Let me ask a question.
Did the Natives ever agree to immigration? I'm going to take a guess and say they did not. More immigration means less native land and that's not ok, it's just a slowly continuing genocide that never ended
Your comment made a funny U Turn for me kkk
The federal and provincial governments have largely been the ones stealing the land, with anglo and Franco settlers aiding in certain instances.
Absolutely nothing to do with Immigration!
It's not necessarily a "garbage" argument. When 100% of your population growth is immigrants, it does not feel right. My point is that when your local population does not feel like they can create families in their community, replacing that with immigrants is probably not a good way to patch the problem. I mean, our environment is so shit that less and less people feel comfortable creating families.
Another question I never had a response to is the difference between a population that its growth is majority immigrants versus locals. How different the city will evolve in either case ? Immigrants are usually coming from an economic, capitalist need. What does this say on our communities ? Our places are so crappy that you can't even have your own children ? What's the point of a community ?
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