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[-] JamesConeZone@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Sorry to disappoint. I don't have hard opinions about anarchists vs MLs. I generally think Engels was more convincing on authority, but I'm not well read enough to have a formed opinion on it and haven't read anything from the last decade or so. I especially don't think the things that you're asking here because I didn't write the statement, Parenti did, and he did so for rhetorical effect against western leftists putting ideology over AES. I'm happy to receive some recs I can follow up on.

[-] mimichuu_@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I am sorry for being agressive. I mostly assumed you thought the same things as the person you were quoting. I appreciate that you at least admit you aren't well read enough, that's more than most people I talk to.

I’m happy to receive some recs I can follow up on.

I really appreciate this too. Thank you. I think as a direct expanding on what I'm talking about, this essay is very good:

https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/anark-the-state-is-counter-revolutionary

It's available on video form too, but the video doesn't have citations.

Here's a good rebuttal of On Authority:

https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/london-anarchist-federation-the-problems-with-on-authority

A modern and a classical reading on how anarchists view authority and power:

https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/anark-power

https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/mikhail-bakunin-what-is-authority

[-] JamesConeZone@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

Cheers pal, I've favorited this post to come back too. I've read Bakunin before, but I haven't read the rebuttal on On Authority or the other essays you linked. Looking forward to it! Appreciate the time you put into this

[-] mimichuu_@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Thank you for being willing to engage sanely in the first place. <3

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