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True. Lots of people are jumping on the new “Elon is a nazi” bandwagon though.
What a world we live in where disagreeing with what an organization led or founded by someone jewish allegedly did or didn’t do gets you labeled as an anti-semite. I fail to see how anything here has anything to do with anyone being jewish.
I still would like so badly to find out Elon is an anti-semite. It would be the icing on the cake for all the other batshit stiff he’s done. Does anyone know of evidence of this?
In December 2022, Twitter reinstated the account of notorious neo-Nazi Andrew Anglin (and then suspended him again this month), who has a warrant out for his arrest for ignoring a $14 million judgment against him for directing an antisemitic harassment campaign against a target.
Twitter also reinstated the accounts of people who have incited violence or frequently posted hateful content:
The Nation of Islam White nationalist Patrick Casey Misogynist Andrew Tate
Antisemitic tweets directed at Jewish investor and philanthropist George Soros warranted its own category. He was mentioned more than any other person in our data, over 19,000 times, with tweets claiming he was a member of a hidden globalist, Jewish or “Nazi” world order.
in May, Musk likened billionaire George Soros — a perennial boogeyman for the antisemitic right — to a supervillain, claiming that he “hates humanity.”
Antisemitism on Twitter has more than doubled since Elon Musk took over the platform
While jury selection in the trial of the Pittsburgh Tree of Life synagogue shooter continued on Wednesday, Musk used his platform to boost virulent antisemitic conspiracy theories—including some that the Pittsburgh suspect himself spread
Musk also responded to tweets spreading other Soros conspiracy theories, including false claims that Soros, a Holocaust survivor, helped roundup Jews for the Nazis, and claims that Soros is somehow linked to the Rothschilds, an entirely separate antisemitic conspiracy theory about Jewish bankers which the Soros’ conspiracies have largely replaced.
just days after Musk announced he was buying Twitter for $44 billion, he tweeted about the antisemitic conspiracy that Jews control the U.S. media, including a reference to Soros.
https://www.adl.org/resources/blog/evaluating-twitters-policies-six-months-after-elon-musks-purchase
https://www.adl.org/resources/blog/twitter-not-enforcing-its-policies-antisemitic-content
https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/elon-musk-boosts-antisemitic-propaganda-twitter-anti-defamation-league-1234817008/
https://theconversation.com/antisemitism-on-twitter-has-more-than-doubled-since-elon-musk-took-over-the-platform-new-research-201830
https://www.vice.com/en/article/z3m443/elon-musk-george-soros-antisemitic-tweets
Literally the hashtag campaign that Elon is signal boosting (#BanTheADL) is boosted by antisemitic people who make no secret of their antisemitism. Here's more information: https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/elon-musk-boosts-antisemitic-propaganda-twitter-anti-defamation-league-1234817008/
I don’t want to make it sound like any racists/homophobes/anti-semites or any hateful people of any sort have any sort of place in modern society or deserve any respect but I think the argument is that even hateful speech is still free speech, and the argument is that the ADL is trying to suppress speech. If other hate groups want to latch on to that its their perogative but I don’t necessarily see how that might make Elon anti-Semetic.
Just my two cents. Take it or leave it. Im going to stay out of this convo from here on out because Pro and Anti-elon as well as pro and anti racists are very vocal and opinionated and I know how these conversations usually end up.
Why does it matter that it's free speech? Like congratulations that the government isn't trying to literally arrest you for what you're saying. That's like the bare minimum.
We have no obligation to accept all kinds of speech at all times. X, as a private platform, can make whatever rules it likes for the speech it allows on X. And Elon is allowing anti-Semitic speech while suppressing pro-trans speech.
Like it's pretty obvious what "free speech" means to him. And it isn't actually free speech, it's just prioritizing speech he likes. (Which, spoiler alert, is what all American free speech arguments boil down to.)
As was previously pointed out, he’s boosting a hashtag being used by antisemitics to promote banning the main organization that monitors antisemitic activity.
What about that isn’t clear for you?
Elon isn’t anti-semitic because he’s a free speech absolutist, he’s anti-semitic because he has personally engaged in anti-semitic behaviour. I provided a dearth of examples and sources of that in my comment posted an hour before the one you replied to, and I note that you haven’t responded my comment at all. Have you considered the possibility that you may have some kind of bias in this situation which prevents you from seeing it clearly?
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This is where we are with Elon Musk and X/Twitter. He's a passive sympathizer because he allows the content. What makes matters worse is he's trying to blame it on the ADL instead of taking responsibility for it.