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Yeah, no. The fact that you can actually name the dictator tells that this is not FPTP as it was designed. That is how it has come to be used, because people don't want to express their will, but that has already been talked about to death.
Again, the FPTP system was designed to have the people select one representative who gathers locally to talk about their concerns and objectives with the local people. The representative then takes the result of that to Ottawa to combine with all of the other localities that have done the same to reach an ultimate consensus. The representative's actions in Ottawa are recorded to make sure he has honoured what took place locally.
That is not how we use it. It has been bastardized to the point that it makes no sense. But we could if wanted to have the will of the majority represented. There is nothing stopping us other than doing the democratic work a democracy expects. The only possibly better way to have the will represented is to have us all travel to Ottawa and all gather together. That doesn't scale so well, though, and it's a long way from Vancouver.
To be fair, it's also quirky that you have been able to determine the will of the people as they don't usually want to express their will. Typically they'd rather let someone else figure it out. Hence how we got here.
You see? This is the kind of nonsense that is disconnected from reality. Harper was freely and fairly elected and was defeated in a free and fair election. He was nothing approaching a dictator.
I'm simply not willing to continue to discuss this with you if you're not making arguments that are connected to reality.
Have a good day.
The only time Harper was not elected in a Canadian federal election was the first one he participated in. He resigned from politics about six months after his last election win. Maybe you are trying to imply that the resignation was a defeat? But that did not happen during the election.
Are you, maybe, talking about an election other than the Canadian federal election?
It sure seemed like you were trying to say that he had total control over the country at one time. I do not disagree. If that is not the case, why did you bring him up?
Sorry...your position is so ridiculous that there is no room for discussion.
Funny, as I stopped having a position a while ago. I long moved to trying to figure out your position as it is in no way clear.
Some pretty simple questions in that last comment that would help clarify things. Is there a reason you are afraid to answer them?
Your positions are so absurd that there is no chance to have a reasonable conversation.
What kind of conversation would we have had if, hypothetically, they were not absurd?
Reasonable conversation is predicated on starting with the absurd. I give you the benefit of the doubt that you are trying, in good faith, to provide information to take us from the absurd to something sensible, but I am honestly not clear in what you are trying to say. My attempts to figure it out have been stonewalled.
MapleEngineer: I'm going to come over and fuck your wife.
Rocket: The fuck you are.
MapleEngineer: Let's negotiate and find some middle ground. Maybe she can just give me a blowjob.
When your opening position is absurd there is literally no room for discussion. You always take the most ridiculously extreme and absurd position. That leaves no room for reasonable discussion.
Yeah, more like:
Have a nice day.
Oh yeah, I forgot to add that at the end of every other reply. Sorry about the oversight.
Anyway, if you want a demonstration of absurd, this is what has become absurd. Back to the actual topic of conversation. I believe we have some outstanding questions.
I'm especially interested to learn which election Harper lost after having won one. Trying to wrap my head around your interesting mind further, it dawned on me that maybe you were trying to say that he was Prime Minister and then he lost that position. The trouble with that theory is that the Prime Minister is not elected in the Canadian federal election. It is an appointed position.