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[-] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

World leaders wont arrest each other because they don't want to set a precedent.

[-] Hexadecimalkink@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago

Isn't that happening with Putin now?

[-] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Kinda. There's a really good chance he only invaded Ukraine because a Yes Man told him it would only take a few days and the west wouldn't get involved. >

[-] Hexadecimalkink@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago

Oh I'm fairly certain that's what happened.

[-] SCB@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

This is the entire point of declaring (even informally) a reasonable Cassus Belli

Russia does not have a reasonable reason to go to war with Ukraine that is not "we want that land"

[-] Hexadecimalkink@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 year ago

I don't think there's any good reason for two countries to go to war. It's weird you would say wanting land is a justification. Russia's stated reason was and is for a security buffer against NATO. It's not justified but I don't understand why you're pretending it's not the reason.

[-] SCB@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

NATO wasn't in Ukraine, Ukraine had pledged not to join NATO as part of their disarmament, and the attack on Ukraine encouraged more countries to join NATO.

If "a buffer against NATO" was the actual goal, that existed in post-Maidan Ukraine already, and the invasion directly counteracts that goal.

Also their stated reason was denazification of Ukraine, which is pretty much just rejected by the international community as an unreasonable CB.

[-] Hexadecimalkink@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 year ago

There were several goals stated. It's clear to anyone with a modicum of intelligence that denazification was meant for domestic politics. The Minsk accords were never implemented and Merkel bragged about it being a small tactic to arm the Ukrainians. I suppose we'll see who ends up writing the history books to see which of us is right.

[-] SCB@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

The US and EU will write the history books, regardless of who wins the war.

Effectively, those two are the world, despite being a minority population. That's just the way the geopolitical cookie crumbles.

this post was submitted on 11 Sep 2023
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