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Idk if this is the right community for this conversation, but it's been on my mind and I want to share it with someone.

In the 00's every new thing we heard about the internet was exciting. There were new protocols, new ways to communicate, new ways to share files, new ways to find each other. Every time we heard anything new about the internet, it was always progress.

That lasted into the early teens and then things started changing. Things started stagnating. Now we're well into the phase where every new piece of news we hear is negative. New legislations, new privacy intrusions, new restrictions, new technologies to lock content away and keep us from sharing, or seeing the content we were looking for. New ways to force ads.

At one point the Internet was my most favorite thing in the world. Now I don't know if I even like it anymore. I certainly don't look forward to hearing news about it. It's sad, man. We've lost a lot. The mega corps took the internet from us, changed it from a million small sites that people created because they had big ideas, or were passionate about small ones, and turned it into a few enormous sites with no new ideas, no passion, just an insatiable desire for money.

We're at the end of an era, and unlike the last 20 years of progress, I don't think most of us will like what the next era brings.

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[-] allocsb@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Optimization is the natural path of all things commercial. When the Internet was young it was more experimental as a whole and that was fun for people. Computing is still experimental but the experimentation isn't obvious as it was back then. Unfortunately that means adventure finding you across your computer screen doesn't happen as often. You either need to look for it around the fringes or look beyond the monitor.

[-] O__O@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago

Turning your service to shit to extract the most money from your “users” at the expense of usability is the end result of commercialisation in every instance that has ever existed so far during capitalism.

Even if it destroys the product, this will not stop capitalists ruining it in the name of a few extra dollars/currency in the short term.

[-] allocsb@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago

Good observation. Your options are to reduce your reliance on such services or become increasingly mad at the world. I think the former is more attractive.

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago

or become increasingly mad at the world

The solution to things going wrong and getting worse is performative smug apathy. Get schwifty. smuglord

[-] allocsb@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago
[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago

Your options are to reduce your reliance on such services or become increasingly mad at the world. I think the former is more attractive.

You're not doing a very good job at that "not becoming increasingly mad" thing you were sermonizing about.

[-] O__O@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

I’m already one step ahead because I DO reduce my reliance on anything commercial.

Relying on capitalist companies for anything long-lasting or worthwhile is foolish.

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago

Optimization is the natural path of all things commercial

That's an enshittified way of describing enshittification.

https://pluralistic.net/2023/01/21/potemkin-ai/#hey-guys

[-] allocsb@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago

Not really. Did you read the rest of my message?

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

Yes. I didn't see anything worth commenting on, then or now.

[-] allocsb@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago
[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

Because you are not the sum of this site, or of the universe.

Your very cool tryhard apathy performance isn't new to me or impressive. If you're so awesome touching grass and ignoring systemic problems, keep doing that away from here. Please.

[-] allocsb@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago

I tried to make an optimistic point about the Internet not being the only interesting part of life and you unwarranted used it as a platform to complain about capitalism. Who's a tryhard?

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

Who's a tryhard?

You are.

You sermonized about how cool apathy is and how people that express frustration with bad things need to go outside, and yet here you are. Still.

Go outside. Be very cool and apathetic there. I look forward to congratulating you in your absence. congratulations

[-] allocsb@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago
[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago
[-] allocsb@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago
[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

You're such a very important uncaring hustlegrinder Vincent Adultman doing a business that you're going to win a last word game! congratulations

[-] allocsb@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago

I am your worst nightmare! I am grind!

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

Almost there! Show how much you care about performative apathy! congratulations

[-] allocsb@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago

I'm not apathetic and don't know where you got that impression friend!!!!

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

I'm not apathetic

No shit. Your sermons about how people need to stop caring about things being bad and getting worse definitely rung hollow.

and don't know where you got that impression friend!!!!

Dodge all the labels you like friend but no amount of exclamation marks is making you any less transparent!!!!

[-] allocsb@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago

For real though, the subject of this thread is whether the Internet is or isn't fun anymore it doesn't mention or allude to enshittification and ignoring the topic of the thread by forcing that context is pretty mean. I know you don't like capitalism but do you expect people to be receptive to what you have to say when you detail them and don't care about what they have to say?

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

it doesn't mention or allude to enshittification

It does, even if you wish it didn't. Lots of other people felt the same way in the comments even if you don't like that.

On the other hand, your apathy sermon offers nothing to that person. It's not just a thought-terminating cliche. It's clearly failed you as well because you're still here and you're still posting.

[-] allocsb@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago

I still don't get why you think it's apathetic or doesn't offer anything. All I'm saying is you have to change with the world and the world isn't the Internet

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

All I'm saying is you have to change with the world and the world isn't the Internet

If it's that simple and that easy, logout logout-lemmy and work those hustlegrindy miracles! Concern trolling people here with your not-apathy sermons about the coolness of apathy is wasting your precious hustlegrindy time! Change the world already!

Or better yet, don't. Stay here and keep posting about how you're totally not preaching the virtues of apathy while preaching the virtues of apathy. That's probably better than any version of improving the world that you in particular have in mind.

So continue. Keep telling me how much you don't care about not caring while skydiving and doing crossfit while securing the Jones account and selling the rights to your exciting new blockchain-based startup. antelope-popcorn

[-] allocsb@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago

Ok I'm home now my final thoughts are you've massively projected your world view upon the kind of person I actually am and some day you'll learn that arguing on the Internet doesn't solve anything!

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

some day you'll learn that arguing on the Internet doesn't solve anything

What are you still doing here then, exactly?

You are very important and must continue providing updates about your very important dynamic Vincent Adultman lifestyle where you're hustlegrinding and on a mission to change the world. congratulations

[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

For a lot of people, there's nothing more fun and creative than an unsolved problem.

Monetization/commercialization/organization of the Internet was a super complex problem for a lot of business trying to make it big, and it made for a beautiful shitshow.

But now that the business problem is approaching solution, it's losing that fun and creativity.

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