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Amazon.com’s Whole Foods Market doesn’t want to be forced to let workers wear “Black Lives Matter” masks and is pointing to the recent US Supreme Court ruling permitting a business owner to refuse services to same-sex couples to get federal regulators to back off.

National Labor Relations Board prosecutors have accused the grocer of stifling worker rights by banning staff from wearing BLM masks or pins on the job. The company countered in a filing that its own rights are being violated if it’s forced to allow BLM slogans to be worn with Whole Foods uniforms.

Amazon is the most prominent company to use the high court’s June ruling that a Christian web designer was free to refuse to design sites for gay weddings, saying the case “provides a clear roadmap” to throw out the NLRB’s complaint.

The dispute is one of several in which labor board officials are considering what counts as legally-protected, work-related communication and activism on the job.

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[-] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 155 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You can get mad at Amazon, but really it's the Supreme Court you should be mad at. Amazon is going to take advantage of whatever it thinks will make them more money. The government is the thing that is supposed to keep them in check.

Edit: A lot of people seem to be reading something different from what I wrote. I didn't say you shouldn't be mad at Amazon, or that Amazon isn't at fault for their own actions. What I did say is that you should expect this type of behavior from a business and should expect our government to do a better job at keeping this behavior in check.

[-] xtr0n@sh.itjust.works 130 points 1 year ago

I’m mad at both. Amazon is trash. The current court is trash. And all the ghouls that got us this shit ass court are trash, from Mcconnell to Trump to every dummy that votes for Trump to the stupid stupid Democrats who didn’t fight tooth and nail when Obama’s pick didn’t get a hearing and didn’t pack the courts at the 1st opportunity. Oh and fuck RGB who should have fucking retired at the start of Obama’s 1st term. Octogenarians who survived multiple bouts of cancer don’t have the luxury of hanging out so the 1st female president gets to appoint their successor. Democrats are so fucking inept it’s hard to believe that they aren’t sandbagging us on purpose

[-] Blake@feddit.uk 18 points 1 year ago

it’s hard to believe that they aren’t sandbagging us on purpose

It’s hard to believe that they’re not doing it on purpose exactly because they are doing it on purpose. The system isn’t broken, it’s doing exactly what it is designed to do. You cannot use the system against itself. Voting helps prevent the greater evil but that just gets you the lesser evil. If you want an answer that is not evil at all, we need to create that entirely separately, outside of the established system and politics.

[-] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I don't disagree with anything you said. You're right on every account. We're still seeing it in action as Feinstein refuses to step down and backing up the appointment of judges. RBG and Feinstein both destroyed their legacies by hanging on to power for far too long. It's insane that Mitt Romney, of all people, is the one I agree with. He's not going to run and encouraged other old people to stop running and let the next generation have a chance.

[-] mookulator@mander.xyz 32 points 1 year ago
[-] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 year ago

When the corporations can fund the politicians there is no difference between them.

[-] alignedchaos@sh.itjust.works 28 points 1 year ago

“Amazon is going to take advantage of whatever it thinks will make them more money.”

Yea I will in fact get mad at that kind of behavior. Lots of businesses doing it (and commenters like you normalizing it) doesn’t make them less responsible for their shitty behavior.

[-] BigNote@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

They specifically said you can be mad. It's the first sentence in OP's comment. WTF are you on about?

[-] alignedchaos@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Did you miss where where the point of their comment was to deemphasize Whole Foods’ fault and culpability in this? Or are you starting a linguistics discussion?

Edit: in other words, they say “You should expect businesses to act this way” and I say otherwise

[-] BigNote@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

You either get it or you don't. I can't help you with your lack of reading comprehension.

They specifically said that "you can be mad" about it.

You want to have it the way that they're pushing some kind of agenda, when in fact they're simply stating what's true.

[-] _number8_@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

what the fuck is this shit, on my lemmy? fuck them both is the only sane conclusion, not "it's a business so it's fine"

[-] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I didn't say it was fine.. I said it's to be expected and the reason they need guard rails.

[-] SpookyUnderwear@eviltoast.org 4 points 1 year ago

You expect too much from people. The majority of this platform, like most others, is comprised of emotionally immature children. They simply want to screech when they see something they don't like. Not approach the subject from a dispassionate viewpoint.

We both know what you said. But since you didn't publicly attack Amazon, they'll strawman it so it appears you're defending them.

[-] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

It's kind of wild that Lemmy seems to be even more left and hive minded than Reddit was. In the earlier days, it seemed like it wasn't going to be that way.

[-] SpookyUnderwear@eviltoast.org 3 points 1 year ago

I joined Reddit in 2014. It was great back then. Open discussion (for the most part) was common place. You could disagree, but not everyone was a "fascist" or "liberal commie". Now insults, extremism, and radical attitudes are common place. No middle ground. "agree with all my viewpoints or you're the enemy". Lemmy doesn't look much different.

I've only been on this platform for maybe a week, and I've already blocked a dozen instances/communities. Not interested in extremism.

[-] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I joined Reddit in 2011, it was great. I joined Lemmy after the API price changes meant I couldn't use my favorite app anymore. Lemmy at that time was a lot like early Reddit. It changed at break neck speed. I guess that's just the times we're in now. Everyone in their tribes and if you're not part of their narrowly defined tribe, you're the enemy.

[-] MxM111@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I can get mad at Amazon and Supreme Court at the same time, but not for this. Having uniform requirements is reasonable thing to do, especially for customer facing employees.

[-] _number8_@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago
[-] MxM111@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

Because business is about making money by providing best services. Having dress code is part of it.

[-] SpookyUnderwear@eviltoast.org -2 points 1 year ago

I fear for the public education system when someone like you has to ask this question.

[-] orcrist@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

Getting mad is not important. Making society better is. And everyone involved is responsible for their own actions.

[-] BigNote@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

These people are morons with 8th grade reading comprehension skills.

Come to think of it, maybe they are in fact 8th graders?

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