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[-] freagle@lemmygrad.ml 25 points 1 year ago

Forever wars are great for business. Fucking ghouls.

[-] ahornsirup@artemis.camp 12 points 1 year ago

If only there was a country that could easily end the war by simply withdrawing back behind its borders...

But do keep cheering for a fascist dictator -- everything to oppose evil America, right? No matter how many innocents die.

[-] thefartographer@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

Sometimes it's hard to go after the killer when the calls are coming from within the house

[-] zephyreks@programming.dev 0 points 1 year ago

Russia was very clear what their red lines were, even back in like 2009. NATO kept pushing the issue. Then, by their own admission, teams like the US 4th PsyOps orchestrated Euromaidan to overthrow the Ukrainian government. Ukraine might be mostly innocent here, but neither Russia nor NATO are.

[-] FluffyPotato@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

This is just US exceptionalism in another form. The US didn't organize Euromaidan, Yanukovych wanted to become a dictator so he passed a bunch of laws to do so but people protested and he put the protestors down, causing enough protests to make him flee.

Stop assuming everything happening in the world is done by the US, your country is not that important.

[-] zephyreks@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

Well,, admittedly the US 4th PsyOps could be lying in their promotional materials, but the track record of US support for regime changes has been pretty exceptional. Basically, past performance implies future performance.

[-] ned4cyb@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago

There are other perspectives on this matter that disagree with USA narrative you just repeated. I would go as far as to say that it is US propaganda. To your surprise, most of the world does not agree with what you are describing.

[-] ahornsirup@artemis.camp 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Then the rest of the world ought to read Putin's own essay on what he thinks of Ukraine, I can't be bothered to link it right now but it's on the Kremlin's official website if you want to read it yourself. This invasion is a blatant, imperialist landgrab.

[-] ned4cyb@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago

This is just your interpretation of it, being subjected to US propaganda. I repeat, most of the wolrd does not share this opinion

[-] ahornsirup@artemis.camp -2 points 1 year ago

It's not open to interpretation, it's plain as fucking day. Do you even bother reading Russian media? Because they openly admitted to it.

[-] ned4cyb@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

In good faith that you are willing to be further educated, here is a great analysis from 7 years ago with historic basis and up to the point, predicting precisely the events that started in 2022 by a great American scholar

[-] ned4cyb@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago

A Diplomatic event with decades of history and you believe that one day the evil Putin wanted to take land? This is a joke. As for critique from Russian media, the same exists for Ukrainian critics (if they have not been imprisoned and tortured or ousted by the Nazi regime), as well as US media covering the other side of the coin. Please study some history, it is very important

[-] DianaHasWings@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

I agree! The Russians are ghouls for continuing this horrid bloodbath. They should withdraw to the internationally recognised border immediately.

[-] ned4cyb@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago

The bloodbath is being sustained by the west because they keep providing weapons to Ukraine in a war that THEY (USA) provoked and that cannot be won. Key point in the conflict is when Ukraine withdrew from negotiations after Boris Johnson's meeting with Zelensky. Since that day more close to half a million people have died. Whoever can use reason and think for his own, can understand what that means. The fighting will immediately stop when the west stops providing money and weapons

[-] havocpants@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Bollocks. The fighting will stop when Russia fucks off. What is this concern trolling shit you're doing? "Just roll over and let Russia take your country, then fewer people will die". You should be ashamed of yourself.

[-] ned4cyb@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

Oh yeah? Who backed off from the negotiations in April 2022? Remember what was Russia's demands? I bet you are clueless and you cannot accept the facts. Yet you call me the troll and should be ashamed? It's people like you that are the core of the problem

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