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[-] senoro@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago

How is that arguing in bad faith. You just made a rather witty hut ultimately meaningless reply to my comment. You said “Yeah, quite a bit of the Bible would get you landed in jail”, but the comment you were replying to talked about how this point wasn’t true. And your reply to their comment was essentially: Yeah whatever, but here’s what you just disproved but I’ve restated it.

How is that a reply that makes any sense?

[-] ObiGynKenobi@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

It's bad faith because you're willfully ignoring the parameters set forth in the op. Obviously reading the Bible isn't going to land you in jail (at least in the west). The act of reading anything isn't going to get you incarcerated. The whole point of this post was "read and act".

[-] senoro@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

How do you act out a random page in the bible, like the top comment here said, it’s mostly stories and histories wrote down. So when they reply saying that most of the bible would land you in jail, what does that mean? Does that mean if I copied out the stories that are likely false in the bible, most of which happened 2000 years ago or older. My point is, how do you act that out? How do you act out most of the bible because most of it requires a divine interference. You can’t just copy it out because it’s a story, in the same way I can’t wave a magic wand and shout expeliamus and throw magic at them.

[-] ObiGynKenobi@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

How do people reenact famous battles? Recorded history, real or fabricated, can still be instructive. Take Ezekiel 9:

Then the Lord called to the man clothed in linen who had the writing kit at his side 4 and said to him, “Go throughout the city of Jerusalem and put a mark on the foreheads of those who grieve and lament over all the detestable things that are done in it.” As I listened, he said to the others, “Follow him through the city and kill, without showing pity or compassion. Slaughter the old men, the young men and women, the mothers and children, but do not touch anyone who has the mark. Begin at my sanctuary.” So they began with the old men who were in front of the temple. Then he said to them, “Defile the temple and fill the courts with the slain. Go!” So they went out and began killing throughout the city.

An order given by God himself, to slaughter an entire city for the grievous sin of not worshipping him. Not even the children were to be spared. And yes, like most stories in the Bible, it's likely almost entirely bullshit, but the human cruelty it conveys, and the moral justification it provides, is all too real. And if you've ever dealt with any real religious nutjobs, like the snake-handling, tongues-speaking Baptists I grew up around, then you know that the human brain, when fueled by delusion, is more than capable of conjuring a perceived supernatural experience.

[-] magnusrufus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

If what you wrote there is how their post gets translated in your mind then yeah it doesn't make sense but for most of us it's not going through some sort of word blender.

[-] senoro@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago

I’m sorry to say that I’m lost on which post you are referring to.

From what I understand, the original post is an image that says, open a random bible page, do exactly what it says and the last person to end up in jail wins.

But as the top comment, under which this reply exists, states, if you turned to a random page in the bible you would be unlikely to land on a page which explicitly gives instruction. Which means to me, that you would not be able to turn to a random page and do exactly as stated because you would likely be reading some random story. And obviously the act of reading the story isn’t what I’m talking about, but to act out this story seems difficult, since quite a few of the stories in the bible talk about God or someone divine interfering. How could you act out a divine intervention? You would end up in jail, but not for committing a crime as is implied, however for being a Don Quixoteesque mad man who is acting out stories from the bible.

I simply don’t understand how this post can be anything other than slander directed at christianity snd the bible, because it’s clear to me that it isn’t possible to act out most stories in the bible. And what’s more, this post, to me, gives off the idea that people who follow christianity must be completely oblivious to the fact that it’s an ancient book and that they must follow everything written in it like it’s their own biological code.

But if this isn’t what you gather from this post, would you please explain your viewpoint because I am rather confused.

[-] magnusrufus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

You seem to feign ignorance a lot.

[-] senoro@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago

Is my point not valid, that ultimately you cannot go into the bible pick a random page and act it out, it’s physically not possible for a large amount of pages.

You didn’t even attempt to correct my view although I asked you to explain it if your viewpoint was any different. I genuinely want to know how you see this post if you understand it differently to how I do. Because to me, my understanding is the only one that can logically be drawn from this post.

[-] magnusrufus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

My point is you are disingenuous while trying to make your real point.

[-] senoro@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

If you do not want to explain yourself to me then fine, make your single sentence reply that contains 10-20 words saying nothing at all. I gave you everything that I was seeing and you give me “you bad” in return. There is no point in trying to find out more from someone who acts this way.

[-] magnusrufus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

You're mistaking quantity for quality. You were pretending that the scenario was just reading the passage. You were pretending that you didn't know I was talking about the post I had directly replied to. You are disingenuous and dishonest so as you put it yes "you bad".

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