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In 2000, I wrote a Linux device driver that "decrypted" the output of a certain device, and my company, which hosted open-source projects, agreed to host it.

The "encryption" was only a XOR, but that was enough for the maker of said device to sue my company under 17 U.S.C. § 1201 for hundreds of millions in damages.

The story got a lot of press back then because it highlighted how stupid the then-new DMCA was, and also because there was a David open-source enthusiasts vs. Goliath heartless corporation flavor to it.

Our lawyer decided to pick up the fight to generate free publicity for our fledgling company. For discovery, the maker of the device requested "a copy of any and all potentially infringing source code". They weren't specific and they didn't specify the medium.

So we printed the entire Linux kernel source code including my driver in 5-pt font and sent them the boxes of printouts. Legally they had been served, so there was nothing they could do about it.

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[-] a1studmuffin@aussie.zone 23 points 1 year ago

I'd love to hear more about this - do you do it professionally (for preventative reasons), as a side hobby, or as an attacker for malicious/selfish reasons? No judgement, genuinely curious as it takes a certain personality type to do this kind of work and I find it really interesting.

[-] ngdev@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago

I think they just stare at it, hoping the vulnerabilities come to them in a moment of revelation. A Linux Joseph Smith, the kernel playing the part of the Golden Plates.

[-] HamBrick@programming.dev 11 points 1 year ago

The small overlap of my two largest hobbies, programming and making fun of Mormons. Perfect.

[-] morgan_423@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

OP said this happened in Utah, so maybe so!

[-] Ret2libsanity@infosec.pub 22 points 1 year ago

Professionally

My title is senior vulnerability researcher. Focus on mobile devices. That’s all I can really say without doxing too much

But the Linux kernel is always a juicy target because of the coverage and exploit there gets you.

[-] crbn@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

Neat. Why is Linux kernel relevant for many mobile users? Is iPhone built off of it the same way Mac OS is?

What do you mean by coverage and exploit?

[-] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 12 points 1 year ago

MacOS and iOS have Darwin as their base, which is really a mutt. Apple started with the NeXTSTEP kernel, which was a mix of 4.3BSD and Mach, then folded in some FreeBSD, other open source components, and some in-house code.

It's Android that uses the Linux kernel as its base, and the millions of phones makes it a juicy target.

[-] crbn@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 year ago

Not too surprising that iOS has linux in its DNA, but never realized Android does too. Always assumed it was more windows-based. Good to know.

[-] kbotc@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

iOS doesn’t have any Linux.

FreeBSD is not Linux. Linux is a kernel and Apple uses Mach, a different kernel. They do both share that they’re POSIX, but OS X is actual, factual, UNIX, and Linux has never paid the money to qualify.

[-] Butters@lemmywinks.com 1 points 1 year ago

How different is the FreeBSD kernel from the Linux kernel?

Like in terms of interfaces, if I were to port a device driver, am I just changing some header files and some constants/enums/ifdefs?

Or there’s like entirely different function signatures / APIs?

[-] kbotc@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I would look at the source of LinuxKPI to get an idea of how different they are.

[-] Butters@lemmywinks.com 1 points 1 year ago

Well of course I could go look at the source code. We had to write a hello world Linux module in college. Was just being lazy and thought some expert might give a quick synopsis.

Though based on your reply, I’m guessing they are more different than I imagined.

[-] crbn@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

My bad I'm conflating bash and Unix. From my end both apple and Linux use bash so they have the same underlying base...but I realize that's not accurate, and even unix and bash are not synonomous.

[-] drcobaltjedi@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago

MacOS is based of a BSD distrobution of Unix. iOS is a fork of MacOS

[-] crbn@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Ah ok makes sense

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