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submitted 1 year ago by girlfreddy@lemmy.ca to c/canada@lemmy.ca

A Regina judge has ruled that the Saskatchewan government's naming and pronoun policy should be paused for the time being, but Premier Scott Moe says he'll use the notwithstanding clause to override it.

Moe, responding to today's injunction issued by a Regina Court of King's Bench Justice Michael Megaw, said he intends to recall the legislature Oct. 10 to "pass legislation to protect parents' rights."

"Our government is extremely dismayed by the judicial overreach of the court blocking implementation of the Parental Inclusion and Consent policy - a policy which has the strong support of a majority of Saskatchewan residents, in particular, Saskatchewan parents," Moe said in a written statement Thursday afternoon. "The default position should never be to keep a child's information from their parents."

Last month, the province announced that all students under 16 needed parental consent to change their names or pronouns.

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[-] grte@lemmy.ca 32 points 1 year ago

The notwithstanding clause is only ever used to suppress the rights of groups a given provincial government doesn't like. It's inclusion in the Charter was a mistake and as long as it remains all of our 'rights' are merely privileges.

[-] nbailey@lemmy.ca 26 points 1 year ago

My understanding was that it was intended as an “emergency brake” - a circuit breaker that could be tripped in an urgent situation, at the cost of the user’s career. But, that requires a politically literate population that would discourage its use.

So, instead we have strongman premiers using it as a hammer to point their profoundly unpopular policies through, and an apathetic and disengaged voter base willing to look the other way.

I see it as part of the broader erosion of the “checks and balances” we were assured would prevent this type of creeping dismantling of democracy.

[-] snoons@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 year ago

and an apathetic and disengaged voter base willing to look the other way.

In my opinion, and personal experience, it also has a lot to do with not having enough time and energy to think about anything other then putting food on the table, or even where your next meal is coming from. Certainly there are people that just don't give a fuck, but I think that would be the minority if more people weren't living paycheque to paycheque.

[-] frostbiker@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago

In my opinion, and personal experience, it also has a lot to do with not having enough time and energy to think about anything other then putting food on the table

On the other hand, let's not pretend that we don't all waste time on Kardashians, Lemmy and other inane activities. I think the bigger problem is that we are overwhelmed with information, much of it inconsequential stuff, and that detracts from our ability to focus on and prioritize important but difficult topics.

[-] snoons@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

For me at that time, the "inane" activities were sleep, rarely I had time to go on my shitty computer some evenings.

[-] spacecowboy@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago

Not to be a dick, but do you watch television? A sports fan? Do you go out for entertainment, ever?

You have time for what you make time for. I understand the grind is crippling but at the end of the day the onus is on us to be politically literate and vote. If you find excuses to not do that, of course the slime balls who are attracted to power will take advantage of that.

[-] snoons@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

but do you watch television? A sports fan? Do you go out for entertainment, ever?

At that time in my life, no, to all of those. I was literally almost homeless.

[-] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago

Who knew we'd have more than a few semi neo-nazis as premiers tho?

[-] Splitdipless@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

Actually, withholding Assent is the circuit breaker. The NWC is a mechanism to ensure that parliament makes the law, not judges. A judge may have a perfectly reason for making their verdict, and it totally makes sense to do so by a good number of the populous, but parliament is in charge and they're allowed to set the rules.

[-] Crankpork@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

If they have to suspend the rules to make the rules, what does that mean?

[-] Splitdipless@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Technically, what it's the parliament saying "this is the law, no matter what anyone else thinks of it." It's not suspension of law - an equal legal branch forming government is a feature of the United States. Here, like a lot of Westminster Parliamentary style governments, democracy is supreme to any rise of a kritarchy.

[-] Crankpork@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

Except that the Notwithstanding clause literally suspends part of the charter of rights and freedoms in order to pass a law that the government deems more important than citizens’ rights, like in war time, or during a pandemic (which they didn’t even use the clause for), not to push through right wing identity politics that have been deemed unconstitutional.

[-] Splitdipless@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

Well, depends. It certainly can be used in a variety of situations. The basis of the notwithstanding clause doesn't require that rights be set aside, it can be used to identify that an interpretation of rights is incorrect. For instance, where rights have been determined in the outcome of a case that isn't deliberately mentioned in the relevant act, it would be perfectly acceptable for parliament to use the notwithstanding clause to say "no, that's not what is written in the law we wrote." The 'threat' of using the notwithstanding cause in Ontario recently in the Ford government is a good example of that. They ended up not needing it because the courts determined that the original ruling was probably 'wrong' before it was needed...

In this case, gender expression is a right that has been established repeatedly despite it not being explicitly mentioned in Section 15. (1) of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedom (the basis is that gender expression is related to the sex of the individual). So, it 'technically' could be used correctly in this situation, but they are certainly assholes for fighting people for expressing their gender when it has been firmly set outside of the language.

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Bill 101 exists to protect the culture of a minority in Canada so what you're saying isn't true.

[-] girlfreddy@mastodon.social 4 points 1 year ago

@Kecessa @grte

#DrugFraud used it to shrink TO city council (the courts reversed it later) ... so Bill 101 doesn't apply all the time.

[-] Splitdipless@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

Drug Ford passed a law shrinking city council after the whole 'election thing' kinda started. People got a judge to say that's unconstitutional (and reading the reasons to the verdict - it was all sorts of crazy talk about how it was unconstitutional. Drug Ford said he would use the NWC to pass a replacement law doing the same thing, but that wasn't necessary as the next level of courts looked at the original ruling, went "yeah, the Government is TOTALLY going to win on appealing this - let's just say they're allowed to resize the council and call it a day."

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Bill 101 is Quebec's French protection law that was enacted in the late 70s, don't know what it has to do with Ford and Toronto...

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