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[-] Pooptimist@lemmy.world 104 points 1 year ago

Hear me out on this one:

If we take it as given that pedophilia is a disorder and ultimatly a sickness, wouldn't it be better that these people get their fix from AI created media than from the real thing?

IMO there was no harm done to any kid in the creation of this and it would be better to give these people the fix they need or at least desperately desire in this way before they advance to more desperate and harmful measures.

[-] DrPop@lemmy.one 77 points 1 year ago

You have a point, but in at least one of these cases the images used were of the girls around them and even tried extorting one is then. Issues like this should be handled on a case by case basis.

Some of the comments here are so stupid: "either they unpedophile themselves or we just kill them for their thoughts"

Ok so let me think this through. Sexual preferences in any way or pretty normal and they don't go away. Actually if you tend to ignore them they become stronger. Also being a pedophile is not a crime currently. It's the acting on it. So what happens right now is that people bottle it up, then it gets too much and they act on it in gruesome ways, because "if I go to prison I might as well make sure it was worth it". Kids get hurt.

"But we could make thinking about it illegal!" No we can't. Say that's a law, what now? If you don't like someone, they're a "pedophile". Yay more false imprisonment. Also what happens to real pedophiles? Well they start commit more acts because theres punishment even for restraint. And the truth is a lot of ppl have pedophilic tendencies. You will not catch all of them. Things will just get worse.

So why AI? Well as the commenter above me already said, if there's no victim, there's no problems. While that doesn't make extortion legal (I mean obv. it's a different law), this could make ppl with those urges have more restraint. We could even still limit it to specific sites and make it non-shareable. We'd have more control over it.

I know ppl still want the easy solution which evidently doesn't work, but imo this is a perfect solution.

[-] foggenbooty@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

I largely agree with what you're saying and there definitely is no easy solution. I've never understood why drawings or sex dolls depicting underage people are illegal in some places, as they are victimless crimes.

The issue with aigen that differentiates it a bit from the above is the fidelity. You can tell a doll or an anime isn't real, but in a few years from now it'll b difficult to spot aigen images. This isn't unique to this scenario though, it's going to wreck havok on politics, scams, etc, but there is the potential that real CP comes out from hiding and is somewhat shielded by the aigen.

Of course this is just speculation, I hope it would go the other way around and everyone just jacks off at their computers and CP disappears completely. We need to stop focusing our attention on people with pedophila, get them mental support, and focus on sex offenders who are actually hurting people.

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[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago

I pretty much agree, while we should never treat Pedophilia as "Just another perfectly valid sexuality, let's throw a parade, it's nothing to be ashamed of" (Having the urge to prey on children is ABSOLUTELY something to be ashamed of even if you can't control it.), we need to face facts... It isn't someone waking up one day and saying "Wouldn't it be funny if I took little Billy out back and filled him full of cock?"

It's something going on in their head, something chemical, some misfiring of the neurons, just the way their endocrine system is built.

As much as I'd love to wave a magic wand over these people I reluctantly call people and cure them of their desires, we don't have the power to do that. No amount of therapy in the world can change someone's sexual tastes.

So in lieu of an ideal solution, finding ways to prevent pedophiles from seeking victims in the first place is the next best thing.

It's not dissimilar to how when we set up centers for drug addicted people to get small doses of what they're addicted to so that they can fight withdrawal symptoms, crimes and death rates go down. When you enact things like universal basic income and SNAP, people have less of a reason to rob banks and gas stations so we see less of them.

It's not enough to punish people who do something wrong, we need to find out why they're doing it and eliminate the underlying cause.

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[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 32 points 1 year ago

That's basically how I feel. I'd much rather these kinds of people jack it to drawings and AI Generated images if the alternative is that they're going to go after real chidlren.

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[-] random65837@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

In the US we ignore mental illness, make excuses for it, and then patiently wait until sometime terrible happens.

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