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I was on the beta testing team and have been using Beeper for a little over two years now.

The convenience of having an application to house all of your chat networks is amazing.

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[-] kitonthenet@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

This scans as VCs trying to enclose the internet. If you wanted a communications protocol standard

  1. we have many of these
  2. what’s wrong with ActivityPub?
[-] quortez@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

ActivityPub is more of a social network protocol rather than a messaging protocol. It assumes most data sent through it will get public by default and has very little encryption set up for it, let along E2EE. Now Matrix is a better use case for an open protocol like that and also offers bridges between other chat networks (I wouldn't be surprised if Beeper has Matrix under the hood).

[-] PupBiru@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

it is matrix yes! and they’re contributing back to the upstream bridges

from their website:

Remember this XKCD comic? That’s why we built Beeper on the open source chat protocol Matrix. Unlike other chat networks, there is no lock-in. You’re free to use open source Matrix clients to connect to Beeper, or download your data and move to a different Matrix server and continue chatting with your friends on Beeper.

Beeper contributes back to the Matrix community. All of our Matrix bridges are open source on our Github. Don't want to pay for Beeper? Self-host your own instance for free.

[-] stu@lemmy.pit.ninja 1 points 1 year ago

It's almost not even fair to say they're merely contributing back to the upstream bridges. Most of the bridges would not exist at all without the Beeper developers.

It's also kind of funny that the section of their website you quoted still has language that implies you have to pay for Beeper when it's been free for months at this point. The primary reason to self host Matrix at this point is for privacy and complete control. And self hosting Matrix is only free if you use existing hardware and I would recommend a cloud instance for most people.

[-] kitonthenet@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

There’s no reason any of the fields have to be sent cleartext, except maybe the inreplyto property

[-] alex@agora.nop.chat 7 points 1 year ago

This is using matrix. You can even connect to it from any matrix client.

[-] OneRedFox@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

what’s wrong with ActivityPub?

End-to-end encryption is still a work in progress there, but also that's more of a social media protocol than a chat protocol.

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