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submitted 1 year ago by L4s@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world

NY bill would require a criminal history background check for the purchase of a 3D printer::Requires a criminal history background check for the purchase of a three-dimensional printer capable of creating firearms; prohibits sale to a person who would be disqualified on the basis of criminal history from being granted a license to possess a firearm.

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[-] spark947@lemm.ee 72 points 1 year ago

Silly. Why can't we just regulated the sale of ammunition and gunpowder?

[-] ultratiem@lemmy.ca 47 points 1 year ago

Why? It’s not guns and bullets killing people, it’s 3D printing πŸ™ƒ

[-] GeekyNerdyNerd@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 year ago

We do actually. Just last year new york passed the Concealed Carry Improvement act imposing a background check on ammunition purchases. This bill is completely redundant and unnecessary.

[-] CeeBee@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

Redundant, you say?

How else are corporations going to limit things like "right to repair" and sales, when people can print their own replacement parts or print stuff they would otherwise have to buy?

Think of the profits! /s

[-] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago

Also, how else do you expect politicians to score easy points by "cracking down on gun violence" while wasting taxpayer resources and legislative time/effort? Won't you think of the poor kids going to school in the literal war zone of the public school system?


For the record, common sense gun control laws are important (opinions are what these entail are welcome to vary). The issue is that most of the US already has such laws thoroughly in place yet people and politicians like to act like they don't exist every time a tragedy occurs. I'm sure there's exceptions, but the grand majoroty of the time a politician starts blathering about tightening gun control laws a cursory search shows plenty on the books for their jurisdiction.

[-] Piecemakers3Dprints@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

NY is the shining example of the simple creation of a law being enough to entirely extinguish any criminal activity related to it in the entire jurisdiction. This one is so incredibly powerful, in fact, that the very second it goes into effect, the whole state of NY will be unable to cross state lines to acquire said devil boxes, nor even use a VPN to make such a purchase online. Also, sharks are smooth.

[-] cheesemoo@lemmy.conk.me 7 points 1 year ago

That's actually an excellent point about sharks that many people don't realize. I'm petting one right now and it feels like the softest silk.

[-] Piecemakers3Dprints@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

No direction is taboo, they're smoother than vanta is black 🦈

[-] spark947@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

I'm all for preventative laws if they are good policy. This isn't good policy.

[-] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago

Why can't we just regulated the sale of ammunition and gunpowder?

Or at least the gun parts needed to make a "3d printed" gun actually function as a firearm.

[-] nomecks@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

You can make a completely 3D printed gun that will survive at least one shot. I'm sure if you're using resin or carbon fiber reinforced plastic so you could probably get more than one shot off.

[-] Piecemakers3Dprints@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Resin is generally more brittle than filament, FYI, and the real question with most 3D-printed firearms is whether the shooter survives "at least one shot".

[-] FireTower@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Most 3d printed guns are either redesigns of existing guns replacing non pressure bearing parts with printed parts (look up FMDA17 a 3D printed Glock 17 equivalent) or mostly printed with pressure bearing parts being barstock or pipes (see FGC-9).

[-] Piecemakers3Dprints@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I'm not really sure where you're getting "Most 3D-printed guns", but here's one of the top communities of such. You'll see quite clearly that MSLA is not the preferred method for production, parts or otherwise.

[-] FireTower@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I wasn't claiming MSLA was preferred I was commenting in reference to the latter half of the comment. Most 3DP firearms last much more than a single round because they incorporate metal components where important.

I'm familiar with Defcad, but would recommend The Gatalog over it.

[-] Piecemakers3Dprints@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Oh, hey, thanks! I'm new to the concept and my interest is design adjacent: modded Nerf/airsoft arms, so I'm largely unaware of the intricacies of actual firearms printing β€” though, I'll give Gatalog a look, fo sho πŸ€™πŸΌ

[-] FireTower@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

In that case you might want to check out Booligan Shooting Sports on YouTube (he took a similar trajectory as you), Fuddbusters, and Ivanprintsguns also have some 3D2A content.

[-] Piecemakers3Dprints@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Hot damn! That's awesome, thanks!! πŸ€˜πŸΌπŸ€“

[-] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

That may usually survive that one shot.

Or it may fail and cause damage to the person foolish enough to be weilding it.

[-] pushECX@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Receivers are already regulated

[-] Bernie_Sandals@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Receivers are usually the main part that's 3d Printed, that's the problem.

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