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submitted 1 year ago by jeffw@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world

Highlights: In a bizarre turn of events last month, UK Prime Minister Rishi Sunak announced that he would ban American XL bullies, a type of pit bull-shaped dog that had recently been implicated in a number of violent and sometimes deadly attacks.

XL bullies are perceived to be dangerous — but is that really rooted in reality?

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[-] theyoyomaster@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

That is simply not true. More injuries are attributed to “pit bull type” breeds but that is far different from “more human attacks.” It’s also wildly tainted since it’s based on self reporting and any time it’s not an obvious German shepherd, husky or golden (etc) if someone can’t quite guess what it is most people are predisposed to assuming pit bull because of bigots like you that just hate the breed.

Small dogs like chihuahuas are far more likely to attack humans than pit bulls, although serious injury is less likely for smaller breeds. Even that is skewed based on human factors and handling since small dogs like chihuahuas are often carted around and over handled with complete disregard for their comfort or tolerance level because they’re “pocket sized” and too many assholes have no problem just picking them up whether they want it or not.

The only thing your link shows is that the majority of unknown large dogs that caused injuries were assumed to be pit bulls by one person or another.

[-] charonn0@startrek.website 10 points 1 year ago

The only thing your link shows is that the majority of unknown large dogs that caused injuries were assumed to be pit bulls by one person or another.

FTA:

Essig also explained why “unknown” tops the list of breeds: “We often didn’t know what type of dog was involved in these incidents, [so] we looked at additional factors that may help predict bite tendency when breed is unknown.” Those additional factors included weight and head shape. The findings showed that dogs with short, wide heads who weighed between 66 and 100 pounds were the most likely to bite.

[-] hiddengoat@kbin.social -3 points 1 year ago

That describes about half of all dogs, so no fucking shit.

[-] JustZ@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah, it's clear that these people that use dog bite statistics to argue for breed bans are not doing so in good faith. The breed is unknown is over half of all dog bite cases. That is the beginning and end of this discussion. It's all that needs to be said.

The entire premise of these ban advocates is based on counting something that simply cannot be counted.

I suspect it is really just a ruse to push sympathy for eugenics and right-wing pseudo science about genetics.

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