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Most particularly because it would push them into the arms of Russia and/or China pretty firmly. Either would not be good for Europe as a whole, for numerous reasons.

[-] Land_Strider@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Push Turkey into the arms of Russian or China

Economically, yes. This devil spawn we have presiding over our heads has fucked it up maybe irreversibly bad. We have no proper industry left to depend on. Let alone the braindrain, now even the average person feels no ties to the governing body ruling these lands now.

Culturally, there is no way that happening. Leftist half of the country think very similar to European libertarian ideologies. Some of them are in awe of European countries, some are vary because of attributing most of the current Middle East and Africa instability to European colonialism, but nevertheless this half is a mostly leftist in all human rights issues at least. That is why they have no illusion of siding with Russian or Chinese ideologies, regardless of their economic views. The conservative part, as all uneducated conservative sides in the world, have bigoted views on human rights and flicker from side to side depending on the day's propaganda, but they have a deep distrust towards both Russia and China. They usually don't like the west, either, but that as I said will depend on if Erdoğan is hiddenly begging for money from the west and licking their boots or if the elections are closing in and Erdoğan needs to show "he is a strongman".

NATO alliance benefits both Turkey's interests closely, and the Europe's. Canton alliance would be even a harder pill to swallow for Turkey than NATO alliance, and losing Turkey as the buffer zone against the flow of eastern immigrants/buffer against hundreds of militant and/or terrorist organizations would put overall NATO/European Union on the frontline to these elements.

As for not accepting Turkey into EU, yeah that is a given, especially with this guy taking every step away for the last 20 years from meeting the conditions for joining.

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