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Palestinians say this war is robbing them not only of their loved ones but also of the funeral rites that long have offered mourners some dignity and closure in the midst of unbearable grief. Israeli strikes have killed so many people so quickly that they’ve overwhelmed hospitals and morgues, making the normal rituals of death all but impossible.

Overflowing morgues have compelled hospitals to bury people before their relatives can claim them. Gravediggers have laid dozens of unidentified bodies side by side in two large backhoe-dug furrows in Gaza City now holding 63 and 46 bodies, respectively, said Mohammed Abu Selmia, the general director of Shifa Hospital.

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[-] lloram239@feddit.de -5 points 11 months ago

Though luck. You voted terrorists into power and let them dig tunnels under your cities. So cleanup is going to get messy.

As long as nobody has a better idea on how to get rid of Hamas, this is unavoidable.

[-] Doorbook@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

You should go fuck yourself with these inhuman statements. There are millions of ideas if you cared enough.

[-] lloram239@feddit.de -4 points 11 months ago

There are millions of ideas if you cared enough.

And yet you couldn't even name a single one, nor could anybody else that I asked the question.

Hard problems don't magically go away just because you pretend they are easy.

[-] Claidheamh@slrpnk.net 5 points 11 months ago

A reminder (that really shouldn't be needed) that collective punishment is a war crime.

[-] jet@hackertalks.com 3 points 11 months ago

We can also get rid of Hamas by nuking the entire world and killing every living human

[-] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago

Really? Voted terrorists into power? Got a source on that?

[-] lloram239@feddit.de -2 points 11 months ago
[-] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Wow an election almost...20 years ago? And how many since? Hmm what's the age of the population in Gaza? And what's the voting age?

[-] lloram239@feddit.de -4 points 11 months ago

What does that change? Hamas is still in power and still enjoying widespread support.

[-] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

What does it not? There have been no elections in 20 years. It's a dictatorship and a huge amount of Gazans had no say whatsoever in their "leadership".

[-] lloram239@feddit.de -2 points 11 months ago

It’s a dictatorship

So they should be happy that Israel is helping them get rid of it.

[-] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

By killing thousands of them? By removing access to water, internet, By bombing hospitals and infrastructure? By keeping them trapped in an open air prison? No I don't think so, if Israel wanted to help the Palestinians there are a million positive things they could do to get rid of hamas, destroying the homes and livelihoods of Palestinians is not one of them.

[-] lloram239@feddit.de -1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

By killing thousands of them?

That's the price you pay for getting rid of a dictatorship.

if Israel wanted to help the Palestinians there are a million positive things they could do to get rid of hamas

And that would be? Please be the first to answer the unanswerable question that every Palestine supporter just loves to dodge.

[-] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago

Some of you may die, but that's a price I am willing to pay? Terrible terrible take.

First to answer? Far from it, unanswerable? No, build bridges, don't bomb them. It's not being dodged by anyone.

[-] lloram239@feddit.de -1 points 11 months ago

Some of you may die, but that’s a price I am willing to pay? Terrible terrible take.

What's the alternative? Being stuck up with Hamas forever?

First to answer? Far from it, unanswerable? No, build bridges, don’t bomb them. It’s not being dodged by anyone.

Build bridges with whom? How is that going to stop Hamas? You are providing the same useless non-answer as anybody else. Hamas is still shooting rockets at Israel. How do you stop them?

[-] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago

So I provide a potential solution and you hand wave it away, your solution is to destroy gaza kill thousands of Palestinians, leave the survivors in rubble with no water or food. Wipe your hand, and pat your back for a job well done? This won't destroy hamas, and it would be foolish to think it would.

[-] lloram239@feddit.de 1 points 11 months ago

So I provide a potential solution and you hand wave it away

I repeat myself: How is that going to stop Hamas?

Your "solution" is not much of a solution when it completely fails to address the problem at hand.

[-] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago
[-] lloram239@feddit.de 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Hamas killing over 1000 Israeli's and shooting thousands of rockets at Israel, in case you missed it.

[-] T00l_shed@lemmy.world -2 points 11 months ago
[-] lloram239@feddit.de 1 points 11 months ago

Yawn. As predicted, yet another one without a solution to the problem.

[-] T00l_shed@lemmy.world -2 points 11 months ago

No I have one, but it doesn't fit your narrative so you dismissed it, your solution is to kill every last Palestinian because they are or could be hamas. Yawn, predictable.

[-] DarkGamer@kbin.social 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

your solution is to kill every last Palestinian

Way to misrepresent @lloram239 's position. The solution they are defending is to depose Hamas by military force, not exterminate every civilian on the other side. Genocide is Hamas' position regarding Israel as per their original charter, not the other way around.

build bridges, don’t bomb them.

Israel tried that when they unilaterally withdrew and allowed Gazans more economic freedoms. This autonomy was used to launch the most recent massacre.

[-] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Economic freedom by caging them in the strip? Controlling every point of entry and exit? Controlling water and gas that can come in and out? Odd way to "allow freedom"

[-] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

That never works, there are always more, im not misrepresenting their point. That would be the only outcome. Kill Palestinians to get to hamas, bomb and destroy their homes and hospitals, and schools to get to hamas. If Israel wanted to kill hamas with military means they wouldn't need to destroy North gaza to do so.

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