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People shouldn't vote for genocide. If your choice is between Hitler and Satan it's ok to not vote, or heaven forbid, support a third party.
Every election year I hear about this magical 3rd party that will save us from our shit choices. The only thing a third party would do is split democratic voters, leading to even more republican wins. Despite what left leaning media bubbles say, Republicans are not unhappy. They don't want a 3rd party for themselves and they will keep voting R until the grim reaper rips them from this plane of existence.
Demonstrably false. Check the rfk polls.
The people supporting rfk are the same nutjobs who supported Stien and Johnson. Those are not conservative losses.
Abstention and 3rd party choices are indirect support for the candidate you'd least prefer.
Both choices might be a shit sandwich, but the US system just doesn't support not eating one, so it might as well be the one you'd rather than the alternative.
I wonder if Democrats are gonna realize that eventually people get to the point where they will no longer eat shit.
Yeah then they switch to eating the douche, then switch back to the turd. It's just a constant flip flop between the worst choices cause the electoral college and fptp voting we use are a cluster fuck that leads to terrible results and nobody except the wealthy getting what they want. Because people can't be bothered with understanding cause and effect of actions and policies because the people on the tv told them what to think already.
And then Republicans cut taxes to rich again.
And then democrats don't do or can't do anything again
And the Republicans raise taxes for everyone else
And then democrats still do nothing except maybe hint at giving us free health care
And the Republicans repeal climate change bills
And the democrats still do nothing but act like maybe they might legalize weed even though they wont
And then a school gets shot up
And then no one cares
And then Republicans are elected
And then democrats are elected
And on and on the world turns and we confirm time is just a flat circle where we do the same thing over and over again until we all die or start a revolution and then watch the same cycle repeat just with new names.
Everyone constantly bickering over stupid shit not realizing the real issues are caused by the people high up in the ivory towers holding all the wealth and resources
A popular sentiment, but not among historians.
Third party voting in US politics has resulted in numerous labor and civil rights. women's suffrage, social security, 8 hour workday, etc.
Just another time when academia conflicts with your typical op-ed. A third party vote is probably the most powerful one you can make.
In the 2024 presidential race, if anyone who would otherwise vote for Biden, from any state that is not 100% safe, chooses not to over basically any issue(s), they improve the odds of an R, with a worse stance on that issue, winning the election. Ideology can take a long walk off a short pier when sobering reality comes knocking.
Your assumptions are doing a lot of work here.
It's an entirely different strategy:
A) I'll vote for you no matter what you do!
Versus
B) You must earn my vote.
The progressive policies I outlined above became law because the two major parties grew tired of losing close races, and decided to earn some third party votes.
"Earn my vote" is the bullshit mentality that led to Trump being president. Fuck all of that. R's are batshit, and if someone doesn't commit a vote that can matter against them, that person's part of the problem when R's win.
There is literally NO issue where someone who would normally vote for Biden has a better option under any realistic R candidate.
Rather than shaming people into eating shit, perhaps you could shame Biden into supporting a policy that has popular support in swing states.
Keep in mind that most low income people were materially better off under Trump, whose pandemic policies resulted in the lowest childhood poverty rate since the 90s. (These welfare policies were cancelled or expired under Biden.) So a Biden preference, if it exists, may not be as strong as you assume.
Plus, Republicans work really hard to prevent people from voting in the first place. By not voting, you do the very thing they want.
I'm sure the people whose lives are destroyed by Republican fuckery will appreciate your principled stance.
Sorry dude, my line is genocide. Not sure what yours is.
I'm sure you actually believe you're making a morally superior choice, but I disagree. Your sanctimony has no basis.