258
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
this post was submitted on 09 Nov 2023
258 points (98.9% liked)
News
23649 readers
2405 users here now
Welcome to the News community!
Rules:
1. Be civil
Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.
2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.
Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.
3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.
Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.
4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.
Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.
5. Only recent news is allowed.
Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.
6. All posts must be news articles.
No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.
7. No duplicate posts.
If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.
8. Misinformation is prohibited.
Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.
9. No link shorteners.
The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.
10. Don't copy entire article in your post body
For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.
founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
Abortion to me isn’t a matter of conscious or morality to me at all. It’s about looking at the facts and making a logical decision based on the current available information.
People who are against abortion rights are in my opinion imbeciles who don’t know how to interpret factual information and believe they have the imperative to make life or death medical decisions for other people.
I don’t give a fuck what your religion says about the morality of other people. People who try to make decisions for other people based on their religion can go sodomize themselves with their religious texts.
The only person’s actions your religious belief gets to dictate is your own.
I agree absolutely, healthcare choices are a very personal matter and should never be restricted or abolished. People don't have abortions because they want to murder kids; they have them because of personal healthcare issues and complications that often arise. Even nature itself causes spontaneous abortion, quite often in fact. So for any group of men to delude themselves that they are morally superior for taking abortion off the table is not just ludicrous but in fact as immoral and unnatural as anything people can ever do.
Yea right, the only moral failing involved is the one where people try to use their random sky daddy beliefs to dictate other people’s personal choices and actions.
That is a huge moral and humanitarian failing, I agree completely.
As a Christian, I think like this: who am I tot tell you what values you should have? I have my (Christian) values, you can have yours. Anyone who goes against that is against freedom of religion.
This shouldn't even be a fringe Christian belief. At least one of Paul's letters at the end of the New Testament explicitly spells out, "don't police other people's behavior", in reference to non-christian practices not being a matter for christians to worry about. It follows pretty directly from "let he who is without sin cast the first stone".
Yep. Christians are supposed to let the lives they lead be an example for others to follow if they so choose.
Absolutely man, I was raised Christian as well, although that’s one of the broadest categories of religion, could mean just about anything lol… technically I believe voodoo is Christian, and so are the Urantia folks and also the Mormons and Catholics…
I'm ass-deep in mormon country, and it truly is as much about magical thinking as voodoo or any other cult is. That people cant' see how the catholic, mormon, and every other church is a big business that feeds off people's gullibility is astonishing.
This.
Also, if you are a biological male you have no right to any opinion about abortion whatsoever, much less the ability to make it illegal.
I would disagree with this statement and call it out for being sexist, to the point of being antagonistic and hateful towards men.
Anyone can have an opinion about anything they like.
I can believe in the great spaghetti monster and wear a noodle strainer on my head at the dmv, and raises my fists in glory chanting, pastafari!
There is a difference between believing in something and using that belief to dictate what decisions other people can and can not make between them and their doctor.
If you had said biological males had no right to make abortion decisions, I'd be with you... but saying I can't even have an opinion on the topic because the way I was born is somewhere between laughably moronic and maliciously sexist. I'm not even saying I should have a say in the decision my partner has if she happens to get pregnant, but I can and will have an opinion. You might consider it an uninformed opinion since I don't have a life of experience as a woman, but it's still an opinion. Hell, just being a living human being means having the right to think for yourself, which is the essence of having an opinion. You are saying I don't have the right to think for myself because I was born a male.