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Charles Q. Brown Jr., chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said the Chinese leader would 'try to use other ways to do this.”

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[-] u_tamtam@programming.dev 0 points 11 months ago

China's way of partnering is through domination, and under Xi it is no longer even a matter of opinion or interpretation. The Taiwanese know that well, while the rest of the world is readjusting after a half century of concessions and "trying to be good friends".

China doesn't believe in/wants/cares about a world order with all countries equal under the same international laws, and that's what I personally find to be the scariest for the world's stability in the long term (rather than the naive "democracies are good vs authoritarianisms are bad and hence we should align against CN/RU").

[-] zerfuffle@lemmy.ml 11 points 11 months ago

Ah yes, the classic "domination through trade"

[-] freagle@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 11 months ago

China's way of partnering is domination? Why are you projecting the European project onto your political enemies? Domination is how the North Atlantic has "partnered" with the rest of the world for the last 600 years. China is providing an alternative.

You think China doesn't believe in international law when that's essentially the only position it has been expressing and espousing for decades? Again, you're projecting. The USA has no interest in all countries being equal under international law. The USA is the scariest and most dangerous for world stability in the long run. Of the most bombed countries in the world, the US bombed the top 4 and all of them around China (Korea, Laos, Cambodia, Vietnam).

The USA has politicians like Condoleeza Rice saying that invading sovereign nations is a war crime when she was a major architect of the US invading Iraq. Many of the countries you're talking about are literally British construction. You think The Phillipines is named after someone who lives in that region? You think the borders of African nations are naturally straight?

It's fucking ridiculous how blind you are to the projection.

[-] marietta_man@yall.theatl.social -3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Condoleeza Rice is not a politician; she has never run for any political office.

Also, you come off as a huge Chinese shill.

[-] freagle@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 11 months ago

You have no idea what you're talking about. Rice was the US Secretary of State. You think the only politicians are elected officials? She was an active member of the Republican party and she held political power through the executive branch of the US government. Just because the manner of filling the office of Secretary of State is appointment and not election doesn't mean she's not a politician.

And if you think I'm a shill for China, when I have never been there, don't speak or read the language, and don't work in politics, international relations, international business, or journalism, then maybe you're a little too sensitive to anyone holding a position that opposes yours because your position is completely unexamined and is constructed entirely by Western propaganda.

[-] stolid_agnostic@lemmy.ml -2 points 11 months ago

The aggressiveness with which you responded confirms my previous comment.

[-] freagle@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 11 months ago

Sure, because shills for foreign governments get aggressive instead of being trained on how to convince people of their positions ? You're delusional.

[-] stolid_agnostic@lemmy.ml -3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Actually yes, they do become aggressive. In fact they become overly aggressive, beyond what the situation calls for. Sort of like you, who goes immediately into ad hominem.

[-] freagle@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 11 months ago

I went to ad hominem? I presented a position that opposed the commenter and the commenter accused me of being a shill for China. That is the literal definition of ad hominem.

[-] stolid_agnostic@lemmy.ml -4 points 11 months ago

I'm sorry, but this is very obviously a scripted talking point. You are acting as an agent of the Chinese government.

[-] freagle@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 11 months ago

LOL. What it must be like for you to navigate the world. Scripted talking point my ass.

[-] stolid_agnostic@lemmy.ml -3 points 11 months ago

You have nothing except personal attacks, which checks out.

[-] freagle@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 11 months ago

You still haven't responded to my comment except to say I'm a shill using scripted talking points. That is a personal attack, it is literally ad hominem - against the man.

[-] stolid_agnostic@lemmy.ml -4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Wrong. I’m afraid that you lack the skill to convince anyone here.

[-] freagle@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 11 months ago

Says the person who's literal response was "wrong". You're fucking ridiculous.

[-] stolid_agnostic@lemmy.ml -4 points 11 months ago

lol if you had a real argument, I’d respond. Disengaging, you’re being tedious.

[-] freagle@lemmygrad.ml -1 points 11 months ago

You have literally spent every comment in this thread saying nothing and you accuse me of tedium? Protect that psyche.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml -1 points 11 months ago

Get yourself checked for brainworms ASAP!

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