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submitted 11 months ago by Salamendacious@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world

Senior men have higher rates of suicide than average, and firearms were involved in more than three-quarters of those deaths in 2021, according to a CDC report

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[-] Dra@lemmy.zip 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Why does the US mentality always revolve around a single cause?

It's clear that the availability of an instantaneous way to end your life on a whim with zero effort and zero percieved pain is going to facilitate a lot of suicides. No, banning it wont stop suicide, but it would absolutely reduce them. To suggest otherwise is simply statistically disingenuous, regardless of how much you have the right to bear them or not.

But if guns are part of the US identity and culture then so be it, but that means spending on mental health outcomes and prevention need to dramatically increase.

It's a cost either way, whichever side of the gun debate you are on

[-] wooki@lemmynsfw.com -2 points 11 months ago

If you understand suicide even a little bit you would know men do not fuck about when it comes to suicide. There is little in between, no cry’s for help they are rare. guns are a tool to achieve the outcome and the statistics will never change.

So this click bait title is just stupid anti-gun garbage. Men will ALWAYS be the higher suicide rate no matter what.

Up next water is wet.

[-] Dra@lemmy.zip 1 points 11 months ago

If you understood even a little bit about suicide you would understand that sucidial ideation proceeds action, and ideation involves stimulus from the immediate locale.

[-] wooki@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

ideation involves stimulus from the immediate locale

locale

What a load of garbage.

If you understood suicide even a little bit you would know that DEPRESSION proceeds action! Wow. The only way to stop suicide is to address the underlying cause: Depression. Depression requires support from, employers, colleagues, family, friends, and most importantly, mental health support services. Its literally that simple. Depression kills all and plenty of studies have found the cause for men is the fact they act on it more. This is not a unique American problem. Why do men act on it? Because its a part of the social and gender values, ingrained into generations.

[-] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

Toxic masculinity is what you're describing. It's very prevalent in the US. Guns are part of that toxic male culture.

[-] wooki@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 10 months ago
[-] thenightisdark@lemmy.world -3 points 11 months ago

Oh buddy, thinking it's 0 perceived pain is something I'd like to understand. Why do people think gunshots don't cause pain?

[-] PsychedSy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago
[-] Welt@lazysoci.al 2 points 11 months ago

Let's see how well it goes in Alabama for that death row inmate whose lethal injection they fucked up the first time.

[-] PsychedSy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago
[-] Welt@lazysoci.al 2 points 11 months ago
[-] PsychedSy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago

I don't know how I feel about that. I hate that the state gets to choose who dies, but nitrogen isn't a bad death.

Imagine feeling like a human for sparing someone a horrendous death.

My friend, we have so long to go.

[-] Welt@lazysoci.al 1 points 11 months ago

I think hypoxia is a shitty death regardless - whether drowning or just breathing N2 without O2. CO2 causes gasping, I'd have thought CO might be OK since it's quick but maybe it's politically unpopular because it evokes dad in the driveway with the engine running and a hose duct-taped into the cabin. Indeed, a long way to go regardless.

[-] PsychedSy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago

Our bodies trigger on CO. Nitrogen won't trigger our body to respond.

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