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submitted 1 year ago by Knusper@feddit.de to c/technology@lemmy.ml

Solar now being the cheapest energy source made its rounds on Lemmy some weeks ago, if I remember correctly. I just found this graphic and felt it was worth sharing independently.

Source: https://ourworldindata.org/cheap-renewables-growth

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[-] deegeese@sopuli.xyz -2 points 1 year ago

Actually I do. I was a nuclear booster in the 1990’s because it means cheap limitless pollution free power.

Except that they don’t actually deliver on that promise. You can have safe nuclear or cheap nuclear, but if it’s safe it’s not cheap, and the public rightfully won’t accept something that can require evacuating hundreds of square miles for decades.

So wise one, where are those cheap safe nuclear power plants we keep hearing about since 1950?

[-] moomoomoo309@programming.dev 15 points 1 year ago

In France. They standardized the designs so each one isn't a one-off and they trained more people to work in the field.

[-] Uranium3006@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

indeed. just order like 100 SMRs and all the problems go away. problem is the psychos would rather build gas plants and fund dictators

[-] Vendetta9076@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

So the user above me actually gave the the answer so kudos to them but to further answer your question, there are no actually cheap reactors because the fight to actually build one is so insanely expensive. Where I live they'd been trying to build a reactor for over a decade. Constant lawsuits and legal battles after already obtaining permits and everything. Its ballooned the cost by tenfold. Why? Because of constant NGO pressure from the likes of greenpeace. So congrats, you win. They aren't cheap cause of the hell we've made for ourselves.

[-] Uranium3006@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

high speed rail and subways have the same problem. it's not inherently expensive, rich people sue and sue until it's too expensive

[-] Vendetta9076@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

NIMBY's are a cancer

[-] deegeese@sopuli.xyz -2 points 1 year ago

You’re blaming everyone else for nuclear’s failures.

Why are even French nuclear plants badly over budget and late? Answer: Nuclear is expensive as fuck.

[-] Vendetta9076@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

Are you unable to read or are you just ignoring what I'm saying on purpose. I told you why they're badly over budget and late. This clearly is a dead conversation as you lack either a) reading comprehension or b) the ability to discuss in good faith.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Frankly, bad-faith arguments (and lawsuits) are basically the entire problem with nuclear.

[-] Vendetta9076@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Ain't that the truth

[-] Uranium3006@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

that is a big problem anti-nukes have, don't they?

[-] Vendetta9076@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

I think its a problem that a lot of people have when they argue. Pretty sad honestly.

[-] Uranium3006@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

of course I'm blaming the real problem: relentless attack by the fossil fuel industry

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