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Why aren’t motherboards mostly USB-C by now?::I’m beginning to think that the Windows PC that I built in 2015 is ready for retirement (though if Joe Biden can be president at 78, maybe this PC can last until 2029?). In looking at new des…

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[-] BetaDoggo_@lemmy.world 108 points 11 months ago

There's no reason to replace USB A on most desktops since it would break 20+ years of backwards compatibility without any real benefit. Maybe 1 or 2 would be useful.

[-] DacoTaco@lemmy.world 27 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Thats the thing, with a small adaptor that has no logic/silicon, usb-a device is fully compatible with a usb-c port. And things like framework solved this issue ages ago to make hardware expose either, or both, usb-c and usb-a...

If anything, i think the usb-c price might be why its nowhere to be seen. However, with the eu laws that might change in the next 8y, but i doubt it as usb-c to usb-a are a thing

[-] JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

If manufacturers start making printers, mouses, keyboards, headsets and all other peripherals with usb-c cables and provide c to a adapters in the boxes, then motherboard manufacturers should start adding more ports to support them without those adapters.

But the Apple way of changing all ports to USB-C because "you can just use dongles!" is dumb. Motherboards have plenty of space for both, usb-c is like the smallest connector that exists right after the 3.5mm audio plug.

[-] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 6 points 11 months ago

Having lived through the initial rollout of USB, I remember a period of time when a PC would come with a few USB ports, printers had parallel and USB ports on them, mice came with USB to P/S2 adapters in the box etc. so there was a transitional period. Everyone seemed to be onboard with the idea that USB was the future. Within a decade, P/S2, RS-232 and parallel ports disappeared from PCs.

That same drive to move the fuck on and complete the transition doesn't seem to be there this time. Mobile device manufacturers have adopted USB-C as entirely as they can because of their weird obsession with making devices uselessly thin. Peripheral manufacturers really haven't; displays are still HDMI or DP, Logitech outright refuses to make a USB-C Unifying Transceiver..."dongle life." And desktop PCs have relatively few USB-C ports meaning if you do manage to collect up USB-C peripherals for your mobile life, they're a pain on desktop.

[-] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 1 points 11 months ago

I think the difference this time is that P/S2 to USB was about mobing from a proprietary connector to a universal standard while USB-A to USB-C is moving from one universal standard to another

[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

If y’all still have desktops, there’s just no excuse. There’s room to include any port that may be convenient, and having some extra would let you modernize as you need to replace accessories.

At least with laptops, there may be a space argument for limited ports

[-] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 8 points 11 months ago

Still any more than 2 seems like a waste since PCs also have dedicated video, audio, power, and data ports. USB-C makes sense on laptops and phones because you can lump all those things into one or two ports. This isn't necessary on a PC and just adds extra cost with little benefit.

My board from 2018 has a rear USB-C and header for front USB-C. I've only used only one of them a handful of times in all these years to transfer large files to/from a phone and this is coming from someone with a lot of different devices that use USB to interface with the PC.

[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

You’re assuming you only need USB-C for things where it is uniquely suited, whereas im assuming we want to transition everything to the new standard, so we have one port, one connector, one wire

[-] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 1 points 11 months ago

Its a worthy goal but I don't see it happening for decades as everything still uses USB-A and again there isn't a whole lot of downside to the current configuration as long as you have at least one or two USB-C for the tines when it's uniquely suited.

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