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[-] Paddzr@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago

It's a real shame industry doesn't embrace firefox. There's far too many things i rely on which only runs on chromium.

[-] ripcord@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago
[-] elbarto777@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago
[-] Norgur@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Use Vivialdi then at least.

[-] berg@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I call bullshit, take the time to readjust and you'll find replacements. Maybe not as good, but we gotta start somewhere. And this is me hoping you're talking about some arbitrary devtools.

[-] cley_faye@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, sure, go work in any corporate environment that have to work with outsiders, or even just a slightly large structure, and just tell people "take time to readjust, and you'll find replacements".

I'm in a very small structure, and even getting people to ditch Outlook in favor of Thunderbird is impossible because "they can't work with it". I know what they do with Outlook, I know they can do it with Thunderbird, but that does not make people magically accept change. We setup a whole ecosystem of tools, self-hosted, that performs adequately and can handle everything we do. This did not stop management from getting more Teams license.

Wishful thinking is nice as long as you live in a vacuum or are omnipotent. Back in the real, non frictionless world, this takes time, careful preparation, and the slightest bump will throw all efforts out the window.

[-] berg@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

I'm not even talking about ditching Office 365, I'm talking about ditching Chrome, for Firefox, where O365 works just as well. I don't even mind O365 in corporate environments. It simplifies things. I do mind it for my personal stuff though.

There's very little friction for a non tech-savvy person to ditch Chrome for Firefox as long as you help them transfer their passwords and bookmarks. The biggest complaint will be "it looks different", which sure can be a no go. There should be even less friction for a tech-savvy person.

[-] Paddzr@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago

What are you on about. You literally got ZERO clue how much chromium holds monopoly on browser drivers. Go on, try to get anything from a third party to work with HID webhooks. I don't even use Chrome, but that's how little you know. "Not as good"? My god, you have a lot to learn if you ever want to work in any specialised field. No, we don't have to start somewhere. Business needs to keep running and unless industry as a whole improves, you won't see any meaningful adoption in a professional setting.

[-] berg@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

I'm just tired of these excuses. Either you take a stand and do the bare minimum to keep the freaking free web alive or you go down with excuses of superior tech. I don't know shit about modern web tech, thank fucking God, because no one can tell me it hasn't gone straight downhill last ten years with a straight face. There may be cool tech demos in a few places, but that's it about it. It's just gotten bloated.

[-] Paddzr@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

It has gone downhill. But there are genuine reasons why people are locked to apple, google, microsft etc.

Unless you're willing to spend another 6 million for new machinery... You're not strong arming them into supporting new platform. Hell, one of the most popular gene slicer machines only runs on XP. No compatibility or tweaking will make it work. Much smarter people have tried.

Welcome to the world of true big tech. It's where consumer grade is thankfully not heading but doesn't mean it's not getting worse, those things aren't mutually exclusive.

[-] cybersandwich@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Hey fellas, is webp bloat?

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