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[-] toallpointswest@mastodon.cloud -1 points 1 year ago

@MxM111 @jeena @FlyingSquid @grte That's fair, they're terrorists. That said, Israel by every measure is worse

[-] MxM111@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Was than Hamas? The one whose goal is to “run Jews to the sea”? The one who started all this by purportedly killing civilians? Really?

[-] toallpointswest@mastodon.cloud 1 points 1 year ago

@MxM111 @jeena @FlyingSquid @grte You say that as we're literally watching the Israeli conduct ethnic cleansing for the past several decades of the Palestinian people. So yes demonstrable the Israeli are worse.

[-] toallpointswest@mastodon.cloud 1 points 1 year ago

@MxM111 @jeena @FlyingSquid @grte https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/08/28/west-bank-spike-israeli-killings-palestinian-children

I mean literally months before October 7th the Israeli were murdering Palestinian children in the West Bank... where Hamas isn't. You might want to catch up on what's really going on in the Occupied territories

[-] MxM111@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

Yes, a mob of people, that includes 17 y. o. “children” throwing stones and Molotov cocktails at armed people/vehicles and being shot in response (and how military police would know that they are 17 and not 18?) is TOTALY equivalent or even worse than what Hamas did when purposely hunting and cruelly killing more than 1000 civilians. Do you even try thinking before you post?

[-] toallpointswest@mastodon.cloud 1 points 1 year ago

@MxM111 @jeena @FlyingSquid @grte
"Mahmoud stood by the side of a road, waiting for the sounds of shooting in the distance to stop, and was not holding any weapon or projectile, a witness said and a security-camera video that Human Rights Watch reviewed showed. After the distant shooting had stopped and the Israeli forces were withdrawing, a single shot fired from an Israeli military vehicle roughly 100 meters away struck Mahmoud, the witness said. No Palestinian fighters were in the area"

[-] toallpointswest@mastodon.cloud 1 points 1 year ago

@MxM111 @jeena @FlyingSquid @grte Next time, read the whole article - gets worse when you realize the Israeli have are the invaders

And then it gets worse than that

https://www.hrw.org/report/2009/03/25/rain-fire/israels-unlawful-use-white-phosphorus-gaza

Israel is truly a terrorist nation no matter how you charitable you are

[-] MxM111@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

Today you are watching war, in which IDF is hunting Hamas for attacking Israel and killing more than 1000 people. Hamas uses civilians as human shields that leads to additional deaths that otherwise would happen in any war. After Hamas killed those civilians, Israel had no other alternative but to react to this. Hamas has main objectives to destroy Israel and as long mg as it exists, it will try to repeat the massacres again and again, and there would be no peace and Palestinian people are and will be suffering because of that. Put the blame where it is - on the terrorist organizations that uses their own citizens as human shields in order to create reaction from people like you. And the more you react the more Hamas will use human shields for its perposes - because it’s working and Palestinians be damned. Only complete elimination of Hamas can have chance of peace.

[-] toallpointswest@mastodon.cloud 1 points 1 year ago

@MxM111 @jeena @FlyingSquid @grte That was a long winded way of saying that you just started paying attention after Oct 7th and are entirely ignorant of what atrocities Israel committed against the Palestinians prior to that date.
You are attempting to justify Israeli ethnic cleansing that has been occurring since LONG before October 7th, which has cost thousands of Palestinian lives and maimed even more. The Israeli aren't the victims, they are the invaders by their own admission

[-] MxM111@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I was critical of Israel (and still am) for what it was doing, especially for settlements in occupied territories. However, none of that can in any way excuse what Hamas did. I also think that the right wing government in Israel will be gone by normal democratic election process. No such luck with Hamas. Hamas can be only forcefully removed.

[-] toallpointswest@mastodon.cloud 1 points 1 year ago

@MxM111 @jeena @FlyingSquid @grte You are literally defending and excusing terrorism innocent civilians like this

https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2005/nov/03/israel

[-] toallpointswest@mastodon.cloud 1 points 1 year ago

@MxM111 @jeena @FlyingSquid @grte Except the right wing, government of Israel was put in place by a democratic process. Light criticism of Israel, doesn't excuse israel's criminal, terroristic conduct that's been going on for decades. Decades!

You're basically trying to whitewash what Israel has done and that's what's disgusting. Israel's right wing government, is worse than Hamas, murdered and maimed far more, for longer than just one day.

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