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As someone who holds some opinions which don’t directly fit into the mainstream on Lemmy, I actually feel like people have been more aggressive to me when I share my opinion here when compared to Reddit. I will admit, I think I was also too aggressive in some of my interactions due to this unfortunately.
It’s tough because I hate Reddit for ideological reasons, and have been hoping for a viable alternative for a while, but now that it’s here I feel like it might just not be for me.
Hopefully as it grows it will become better in this regard.
What kind of opinions?
I’m not sure how to answer that honestly
As in what opinions are causing arguments.
Edit: ah, you're a Christian. Yeah if I'm being honest I hope most Christians stay out of here. Relgious folks as a whole honestly. Don't need the toxic rhetoric that they bring to the table, with everything happening in america. I don't think any Christian should be surprised to find themselves hated by less religious folks.
This is exactly what I’m talking about - I’m not Christian, I think Christianity is extremely bad (hell, one of my only two posts is a song by Greek Black Metal band Rotting Christ).
People just assume the worst if they don’t agree slightly with your opinion.
Edit: accidentally replied to this twice instead of your next reply.
Well I can tell you you have a blind spot when it comes to Israel. That seems to regularly cause arguments.
Have you considered that maybe you have a blind spot?
The majnstream opinion on a subject is not always the correct one.
Anyway I don’t want to argue about this, let’s just agree to disagree.
No, I'm not gonna agree to disagree. But I am willing to leave it at you're wrong.
Thank you for proving my original point in this thread, I guess.
All too happy to.
Lol I assume I probably disagree with his position, but has he actually stated it anywhere yet?
This is a very leftist online space. And proudly so. And it's not like there's a lack of disagreement among leftists. But any vagueries about having "controversial" opinions is gonna come across as fascist dogwhistling or at best liberal snobbery.
If you truly want a “leftist” online space lacking disagreement, you’re just asking to be put in an echo chamber. Differing opinions are important and should be encouraged - hell this is one of the core principals of democracy.
The only opinions I don’t respect are those advocating violence or violating basic human rights.
I hate fascism and I honestly don’t know what liberal means in this context since “leftists” seem to use it as a catchall term often.
Lol the fact that you think leftism is small and unified enough to be at risk of becoming an "echo chamber" shows just how little you know about leftism.
Liberalis generally are capitalists who think that capitalism is a "free", "democratic" and "equal" system. Some liberals think its flaws can be ironed out with regulation and reform.
Leftists aren't just socially progressive. They're also anti-capitalist. And no amount of "debating" is gonna change that.
Btw
sounds a lot like Musk lol. But least you unambiguously stated you hate fascism, even though I'm not really sure what you would even define as 'fascism'...
Sorry I misread your comment, I thought you said leftists lack disagreement, while also claiming it’s a good thing. I don’t think leftism is small and unified (that’s why I put it in quotes in my comment, since I assumed you actually meant a small subsection of leftists).
Also, while I honestly despise Musk, if he truly believes that (I doubt it), then I agree with him.
I probably define fascism the same as you, no need to be passive aggressive.
Mate, you were confrontational in the first place lol, no need to tell the other guy to calm down, he's not an idiot, he knows what you initially assumed of him obviously.
As someone who shares your desire for a better alternative, I find it disheartening to witness aggression. Although my experience with Lemmy was similar to Reddit (perhaps it's just a matter of how I express myself or the communities I engage with), I genuinely hope you can also find comfort in Lemmy. Thank you for sharing your thoughts.
Well the basic rule of persuasion is to state what you agree with already, I assume an arguement can be productive and civil if you follow a similar pattern. State your points of agreement, then the diagreement.