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Pretty confident this is Ukrainian engineering and building. Not American.
Also, fuck off with the “we pay for other countries wars” when Ukraine was literally attacked in nothing more than a land grab. Help or shut the fuck up.
Furthermore it's an investment. It's lend-lease which has to be paid back by Ukraine. This essentially means that Ukraine will be USA's little bitch for a loooong time.
I will give astronomical amounts of my money to help Ukraine, but I don’t want them to be our bitch. I want a good regional ally. I want a regional partner with stability. I want them to be able to fight for themselves. They’re people and their own country.
I didn't say all Americans wants to fuck up the world. I just stated the obvious: The US supporting Ukraine with weapons has nothing to do with charity. It's a lend-lease. Eventually it has to be paid back. Before the debt is paid off Ukraine will do as USA wishes.
Not to mention the treaty we signed with Ukraine in exchange for them turning over their nukes.
This isn't true, lend-lease wasn't used, Ukraine is not paying back the assistance that was given so far. It could be authorized and used later, but hasn't been so far
Care to elaborate?
The full title of the act is “An act to provide enhanced authority for the President to enter into agreements with the Government of Ukraine to lend or lease defense articles to that Government to protect civilian populations in Ukraine from Russian military invasion, and for other purposes.”
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine_Democracy_Defense_Lend-Lease_Act_of_2022
It's only an investment for war profiteers, as always. If you're not invested in Raytheon, it's just lost value for your taxes.
Lost value for your taxes? Essentially Ukraine borrowed Americans tax money to buy weapons made in American factories where American workers get a monthly salary which they spend in American stores often buying American made products.
Sounds like American tax payers are benefiting and will continue benefit quite much from the lend-lease to Ukraine
They are not, unless you are Ukrainian
The US can count the number of nation threats to their National Security on one hand. The ex-ussr clown show is one of them. Consequently, contributing to the reduction in strength and power of said national security threat at no risk to yourself, zero chance of own casualties, and at bargain basement prices is an absolute no brainer. It's literally the best use of your taxpayer dollars for the one thing the Federal Government universally is accepted as being responsible for: self-defense/national security, and you're complaining about it? Give your head a shake. Also, don't be rude.