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What a worthless blockade, the whole point of a blockade is to prevent ships from entering or leaving. I wonder if the Russian Black Sea fleet is even still operational.
As the article says, it appears to have been a bluff and the west called them on it.
The whole invasion has been a bluff! Putin keeps threatening to nuke to West and NATO if we supplied Ukraine with assistance. Over and over and over. Well look how that went.
Good point!
Putin has never threatened to nuke the west. The only nuclear threats have some from the US.
Fucking lol, Medvedev has been threatening to nuke everyone and their cat every other day since this shitshow began. Cope more vatnik.
This isn't reddit son. Back your claim up or stfu.
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russias-medvedev-wed-have-use-nuclear-weapon-if-ukrainian-offensive-was-success-2023-07-30/
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russias-medvedev-warns-west-that-nuclear-threat-is-not-bluff-2022-09-27/
https://www.reuters.com/world/russias-medvedev-warns-united-states-messing-with-nuclear-power-is-folly-2022-07-06/
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russias-medvedev-says-arms-supplies-kyiv-threaten-global-nuclear-catastrophe-2023-02-27/
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/putin-ally-medvedev-warns-nuclear-war-if-russia-defeated-ukraine-2023-01-19/
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-warns-baltic-nuclear-deployment-if-nato-admits-sweden-finland-2022-04-14/
Every single one of these is outlined as a response to military aggression. Every one.
Really shifting the goalposts there.
You start with
Then someone provides a list of such events that are from Russia and not the US, then you shift to
The original commenter didn't say they were without context. They simply said that the threats were made, which they were. You were so adamant that they weren't made that when you were shown proof that they were made, you have to reframe it.
That's like, a logical fallacy, or something. I think. 🤔
Didn't happen. These are all responses to threats, not threats themselves.
What a weird framing you're taking. They're literally threats. They're contingent threats, but they're still threats. Your claim was that they have not made threats; in reality, they have.
Also: isn't every threat contingent? If the threat is "I will use nukes if X event occurs" it's contingent on X occurring. If the threat is "I will use nukes" then it's still contingent, but the contingency is implied: "I will use nukes if I want to". There is no such thing as a threat that isn't contingent.
In fact, since you asserted that the only threats had come from the US, can you point to any sources from the US that are threats (and let's use your definition of threats here, too: you don't get to point to a contingent threat)?
Okay then everyone is always in a state of threatening each other. Kind of meaningless.
I knew Russian state endorsed journalists had been saying that sort of thing, but I thought they had a layer of plausible deniability by not having their actual ministers say things like that. But it turns out he is right, Medvedev did threaten to use nuclear weapons if Ukraine successfully regains the temporarily occupied Ukrainian territory: https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russias-medvedev-wed-have-use-nuclear-weapon-if-ukrainian-offensive-was-success-2023-07-30/.
That was 2 days ago. Is that all you've got? I was just told that they've been constantly doing it.
Hahaha, first it was "that never happened!" but now it's "that was only 2 days ago!".
You should really think about the logic of your arguments.
Of course, these comments are from a lemmygrad user. Those morons think Russia is communist and anti-imperialist, no wonder they're bending over backward to defend Putin.
You take that back!
The Russian black fleet is the strongest submarine fleet on the planet, they launched their newest vessel, The Moskva, just last year!
As the saying goes: "In the Russian Black Fleet, every ship is a potential submarine!"
Russian submarine technology is sp advanced they're preparing to convert the entire Kurch bridge into a submarine! Western technology cannot match!
Third strongest naval fleet beneath the Black Sea
Operational? Sure. But not actually operating in the Black Sea region they are supposedly blockading.
Russia has long pulled many of their ships back to more secure locations to keep them from being targeted. It's basically typical Russian posturing. They can pretend to block grain ships in the Black Sea all they want but to actually do it they would need to have control there.
The only thing they could actually do is shooting missiles mostly blindly at everything that moves...