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[-] Drinvictus@discuss.tchncs.de 40 points 1 year ago

This was the same promise in 2020. And yet here we are. Democrats should have done better than beg to save democracy one more time.

[-] MrVilliam@lemmy.world 57 points 1 year ago

Preserving democracy was never going to be a single-step solution process. It takes consistent, persistent work to not only expand, but to just maintain our liberty for all. It's a tower defense strategy game.

At the close of the Constitutional Convention of 1787, a lady asked Benjamin Franklin “Well Doctor what have we got, a republic or a monarchy.” Franklin replied, “A republic . . . if you can keep it.” This existential threat has always been there and it's something to always be wary of. It's exhausting, but it's worth it. Freedom ain't free.

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

It wasn't really a concern until recently. We didn't have constant threats against democracy from within our own government when I was a kid.

[-] Stegget@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Until recently? We had a little thing called the Civil War that was a bit of a speed bump, too.

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

That's why I added the part about "when I was a kid". I suppose I should have clarified that I'm talking about within my lifetime. There have definitely been other dark moments in our history.

[-] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

To be fair "when I was a kid" is a rough estimation that typically can range about a 0-60 year timespan or more.

[-] ASeriesOfPoorChoices@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

So, Nixon & Watergate wasn't a threat?

Citizens United wasn't a threat?

And don't forget the constant attempts of voter ID laws in Republican states.

Gerrymandering by incumbent parties.

Poling booth closures and inaccessibility.

As five examples of an endless, constant stream from Republicans.

You just have no fucking idea what you're talking about.

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That is all bad, but it's not "we're going to cancel voting and stay in power indefinitely" bad, which is what people fear from the Republican party now. It's not "we led a group of fanatics to Capitol Hill in an attempt to overthrow democracy" bad.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago
[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

If it wasn't clear, I wasn't saying it was an unreasonable fear. They attempted a literal coup. It's a legitimate fear.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

I think I misread your post. Sorry.

[-] TheSanSabaSongbird@lemdro.id 2 points 1 year ago

It's cyclical. There was an uncannily similar fascist movement in the US immediately prior to WW2. We had members of Congress on the Nazi payroll, for example. It's happening again; fascism and authoritarianism are on the rise across the globe.

[-] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago

You can just tell everyone you are an idiot instead of suggesting you know something they don't.

[-] money_loo@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago

“You ever notice whenever the republicans do something terrible or prevent something good from happening, it’s always the democrats fault?” -Fucking idiots everywhere.

[-] return2ozma@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Nina Turner said it years ago.. our "choices" were a full bowl of sh!t or a half bowl of sh!t... https://youtu.be/X1ObX0iDRjo

[-] beg@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

can you really call this two party system a democracy

[-] Zrybew@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

In 2028 a mummified version of Biden will be put forward as candidate until 2032, when a new act in place allow for digital avatars to be president and digital Obama comes back with Yes We Can, Again!

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