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Who's winning the war in Ukraine?
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this post was submitted on 04 Dec 2023
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I mean, I don't want Russia to win, but I have no problem with accepting facts where I see them. I think almost everyone here would agree that both the countries involved have lost much more than they can ever gain out of this war.
Russia is totally burning through crazy amounts of men and material, at an unsustainable level, without any advancements. So there is absolutely no "Russia wins" on the horizon.
I also think that Ukrainian freedom is what Ukraine thinks is worth more than anything.
More to the point, Ukrainian freedom isn't the empty, abstract "freedom" you see so many American politicians talk about. It's freedom from Russian rule, and since the start of the war, Russia has been showing us exactly how much that kind of freedom is worth.
You make it sound like this is a voluntary war for both sides, but it's not. Only Russia chose to invade Ukraine, and they can choose to go back home and end it tomorrow. Ukraine is fighting because it was attacked and it's people are still living under occupation.