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Pluralistic: "If buying isn't owning, piracy isn't stealing"
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this post was submitted on 09 Dec 2023
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If you have sex with, but don't pay a prostitute, are you stealing?
Did they consent to the free sex?
No because the entire metaphor is built on the concept of prostitution
Prostitutes can't have a romantic life unless they're paid to do so? This is such a bizarre metaphor, let's see where it leads 🍿
Also: if there's no consent it's not steeling, it is rape. It's really strange to think how because of someone's profession we recontextualize the act as steeling and not rape. Ie it's like saying one is steeling from prostitutes while not addressing the fucking rape. This is your brain on Milton Friedman economics - where your body is capital and it has a price.
Hey dude it's called a metaphor. Sex is a fleeting service.
I'm not sure what you're trying to say here.
You buy it and have it for a short period of time.
Yes, that's the definition of a service. Just not sure what your point is about talking about prostitutes as if one was steeling a service when they get raped. Steeling from creatives is rape or something?
The metaphor is both limited and clear and any failure to understand is so absurd as to seem intentional.
Wait, instead of metaphor you meant a literal example? Absurd indeed to compare rape to downloading something illegally.
Hey dude put your effort elsewhere
Working on it
Thank you for fighting the good fight. This dude is unhinged
Piracy is also not at all like stealing services, just as it is unlike theft of real items.
Not paying a prostitute because you have a sexual partner at home who meets your needs is closer, but also not the same
Except your literally performing the same service, which I paid by everyone but you. Game of Thrones is expensive. Subs pay for it.
Fuck man I'm pro-piracy because I do it to, but it is absolutely stealing. Make peace with it.
Stealing is the wrong word for it though as software piracy does not deprive the owner of the thing copied.
There are arguments that it is nett good even as it gets people into an author, singer, game company, while they cannot afford it and they may become a good customer for that author, singer, game company later in life
This new problem where companies revoke your licence to content is the industry shooting itself in the foot so I don't care about the ethics of it, if they don't sell me a product for me to own like I own a paper book, I'll take a copy without licence
How is the owner not deprived of your copy? Have you given it back to them? It's an odd thing to mince over words like "theft" and "stealing." If it's the words that bother you, perhaps consider this: should it be permissible to consume a digital good without consent of the copyright holder?
If the copyright holder wants more exposure, that is up to them to decide. It's absolutely unreasonable to do so on their behalf and claim it's somehow doing them a favor. With that logic, any form of theft can be legitimized.