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Biden says Netanyahu must change, Israel losing global support
(www.reuters.com)
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IDF are the good guys, just like the Ukrainian army is. That doesn't mean that every single individual in either army are angels or that every operation is virtuous, just that their overall intentions are just.
An important question: What would the world look like if these guys won versus if they lost?
Narrator: ...they weren't.
Which is more important, ends or means?
Ends are more important.
I can prove to you it is not.
If my end is to have a million dollars, am I justified in killing whoever I want to get it?
If someone rapes your sister, are you justified in killing their whole family to get to them?
If someone kills your daughter, are you justified in burning down a city in revenge?
Oh, I didn't realize you asked "do ends always justify the means?". My mistake.
I'm positively surprised ur not downvoted to hell for saying that I must say
There are no downvotes on Beehaw.
ohhhh that makes total sense now thanks!
It's true, there are no downvotes on Beehaw. It doesn't accept them or federate them.
However, people from other instances see a downvote button and it registers downvotes - but only from people on their own instance.
@fosforus and @idiocracy are probably looking at those figures and mistaking it for over-all numbers.
Perhaps majority of the people who hate my comments about Israel vs Hamas have already blocked me
that was funny and I thank u for that :D
IMO the only "good guys" fighting there are the civilians "fighting" to survive. Not Hamas and not the IDF. Neither care about the innocent.