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Dutch far right struggles to find allies for power
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I'm not sure if the writer of this article is familiar with Dutch politics, but nothing unusual is happening. Unlike in the US, where one party wins am absolute majority, we have a system where you need to form a coalition. And this is obviously a whole political game, with parties kinda pretending they don't want it just to have a better bargaining position. This formation process has taken months for as long as I can remember, and personally I don't feel like it's going particularly badly for them.
I still think the coalition of PVV, NSC, VVD, BBB will happen in some way or another. But the other parties do want the PVV to make clear that some of it's plans are just not going to happen. Wilders is aware of this, and suddenly seems a lot more reasonable than I'm used to (though obviously still far-right). Ideas like a Nexit or a full immigration stop are just not executable, so they'll have to be toned down.
Yeah I'm also Dutch and agree with this 100%. Forming a coalition always takes time. If anything I think they're actually going quite fast. I was expecting the VVD and NSC to push back more than they are doing.
Honestly I'm fine with them creating this coalition quickly. The sooner it's formed the sooner it can collapse.
Haha yeah exactly. I'm currently hoping that the PVV voters will get annoyed that the solutions aren't as simple as Wilders always pretends, and then the next election we might return to some slight normalcy again. Or shit will get even weirder, who knows...
This is not how it will go down. PVV might briefly hurt when its government fails, but then they'll start spewing their far right populist shit again and people will eat it up and vote. In the meantime the whole political conversation has shifted to the right and will nor recover.
Having PVV form a government is not good. Not on the short term, definitely not on the long term.
If those supporters are anything like the right wing in other countries, they'll probably blame the opposition parties for every failure of their own candidate.