So we have techno-luddites deciding that we have to shun all browser advancements because they can be used for evil? Seriously? You can use a car for evil, you can use money for evil. JavaScript and CSS are perfectly cromulent technologies that serve perfectly useful functions. Let's see an HTML-only site build a custom pizza order or let's see an HTML-only site crop and fit an uploaded picture into a profile picture.

We shouldn't be condemning technology, we should be condemning the uses of it that create the hellscapes that we all hate. If anything, the creators should be advocating for some means of truce with advertisers so that regular users can get some peace from disruptive ads.

I understand the frustration being leveled at general web pages though. And I'm not a moron and I understand that there is no way to speak to advertisers in general, like there is no way to seek general consensus on what users (both power and technical) want from their web experience. But I feel like we've all gone into our separate camps and assumed that there's no way to reach common ground.

Maybe we need another standard.