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It's no secret I'm on the misanthropy spectrum, but as such a person you could say that about, I wanted to ask this ever since hearing this conveyed in response to recent events which sees three spheres of influence now arguably possessing the potential to deliver on such promises. Like... what's the deal?

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[-] PotentiallyAnApricot@beehaw.org 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I don’t think you can know anything about a person based on their perceived affiliation to a culture. Wars, nuclear or otherwise, aren’t fought by cultures or even countries, but by groups of powerful individuals within those things, and people are all different and have infinitely varying thoughts about things that their governments do, or that other people they share a group affiliation with do. I think it’s best to target any resentment about a specific event at the actual people who took part in making it occur, and not at people who happen identify with the same culture as the hypothetical nuclear perpetrators. The latter doesn’t make any sense to me, unless the goal is to come up with a pre-justification for cruelty or discrimination, which often has a secondary practical purpose beyond just “I’m upset about that nuclear war”.

[-] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

I mean if someone felt dysphoria about their nation but couldn't escape it that would be one thing, but that's not even the biggest concern, as you have people further up the scale who will stand by their homeland or former homeland for whatever reason in a nepotistic sense, and in a world where people often boast and judge over one's national or heritage background, there is apparently growing discussion over whether the fact someone's realm of origin pushed the big red button is a cue that national sphere can be looked down upon.

[-] PotentiallyAnApricot@beehaw.org 7 points 10 months ago

I disagree with you here. I just don’t think it makes any sense. People are too complex and varied.

[-] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

I myself don't really identify wholly with the assertion, I'm just saying it has become a topic in regards to fighting escalation/consequentialism with more consequentialism and that it inspired the OP.

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