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submitted 10 months ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world

Law was passed following Highland Park shooting in 2022, and has been challenged by gun shops and gun rights groups

The US supreme court has refused to overturn an Illinois ban on assault weapons and high-capacity ammunition, which was passed following the deadly mass shooting in Highland Park, Illinois, in 2022.

The court rejected the request, made by a gun shop and a national gun rights group in an appeal of a lower court’s decision not to allow a preliminary injunction to block the law.

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[-] yeather@lemmy.ca -4 points 10 months ago

It’s very well established colonial Americans could own the most high end and powerful weapons of the period for their personal use and continued to do so until around the Civil War, this being large cannons. It is also well established the founding fathers understood technology advances and the second amendment should cover any future weapons of war. See private ownership of cannons, privateering, the St. Albans Artillery Regiment, and the Kalthoff repeater for more details.

Your misreading of the second amendment is the main reason you have this viewpoint. When most people think of the second amendment they think of its purposes for hunting, recreational shooting, or self defence against other individuals. However, the purpose of the second amendment is to keep the citizenry armed against the government itself lest we fall under a tyrannical government again. The militia in this case is standard citizens using their own arms against the government in ad hawl units. The founding fathers just fought and won a war against such a government mostly because of their ability to acquire such weapons, and the first thing Britain did when they suspected rebellion was attempt to ban weapons.

In any case, your last point is true. It is just a word in an amendment to the highest document in the land. In which case it takes precedent to all other laws. If you wish to control arms, you need to have an amendment to do it, and until then they shall not be infringed.

[-] JustZ@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The second amendment tells us its purpose expressly and it's not to protect the citizens, it's to protect the state. You have it backwards. Read it again.

[-] yeather@lemmy.ca -3 points 10 months ago

“Security of a free state” is the but you are referring to I assume. To secure the free state you must simply remove the tyrannical and authoritarian. The second amendment tells the citizens they are the last line of defence to protect the government against itself. An armed populace is a free populace, and that armed populace shall not be infringed upon.

[-] JustZ@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

An armed to the teeth populace at large doesn't protect anyone's freedom though, as we now see.

[-] yeather@lemmy.ca -3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The armed to the teeth populace has protected my freedoms quite well. It’s always is the people, or children, who should have never had weapons for one reason or another that have poisoned the idea in your mind, and in all of those cases a more armed populace is a more safe populace, as those kinds of people choose schools, grocery stores, etc. where people dont usually carry.

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