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Tesla driver who killed 2 people while using autopilot must pay $23,000 in restitution without having to serve any jail time::The case is believed to be the first time that U.S. prosecutors have brought felony charges against a motorist who was using a partially automated driving system.

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[-] half_built_pyramids@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

How can I register that I don't want leniency for someone who manslaughters me?

Like, I get it. We like in a society. Compassion. All that stuff. It doesn't have to be life in prison. But it better be enough prison to ruin their life; just enough. Just enough that they always feel like those things that Ursula turns all the mermaids into in little mermaid. Like king triton looks like a little shitty barnicle instead of a big muscle daddy.

Oh, and no memoirs or books or anything about how they were the first guy to get postmortem denied parole because of my no pussy manslaughter sentence clause.

[-] RegalPotoo@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Yeah, similar thoughts. People fuck up, make terrible mistakes through stupidity or bad luck or whatever and end up killing people and the best thing for society as a whole is rehabilitation and forgiveness.

That said, if it was one of my family, I'd be campaigning for the driver to have "my negligence killed two people" tattooed on their forehead so they never, ever get to forget the damage they have done

[-] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If you want it to just be enough to ruin their lifes then why don't we just start executing them on the side of the road?

I'm having real trouble understanding people who advocate for a world like that. Tomorrow it might be your mom checking your text to bring some orange juice from the store aswell and then she hits a pedestrian and now we're going to ruin her life for it because apparently she deserves it. This is the world you guys want to live in?

[-] takeda@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Or someone close to you could be killed by a driver using autopilot like this.

[-] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Want to elaborate? I'm not sure what you're trying to argue for there.

[-] theneverfox@pawb.social 7 points 1 year ago

Fair, but I'll assert it's invalid

The end goal should always be a better society. Punishment isn't an effective way to discourage behavior.

Maybe one day, someone kills my sister. I'd happily kill them. I'd do it with no remorse, and I'd do it with or without understanding the situation.

I should be stopped if I'm in that situation. I'll be pissed, but everyone will be better off if I hold back. So, society should hold be back

[-] stevestevesteve@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

In a way I agree, there has to be a major deterrent for this level of negligence. That said, "ruin their life" isn't IMHO the right way to go. I'd be happier if they kept living a productive life, but they'd better be supporting the people who depend on me.

You want them to learn their lesson but how do you do that without ruining lives? How do you do it before they kill two people? I think that level of change has to be governmental and even cultural. Reducing dependence on cars, increasing how seriously driving is taken, etc

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