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submitted 1 year ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world

New York lost more residents – and at the largest rate – in 2023 than any other state, despite an overall rise in the U.S. population, according to U.S. Census data.

The bureau released a map showing the percentage change in state populations between July 2022 and July 2023 – New York stands out as the only state colored a deep orange, a label for a percentage change of -0.5 or more.

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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

I don't know OP, but I won't be surprised at all if it's something about guns.

[-] Ageroth@reddthat.com 3 points 1 year ago

I just moved to upstate from the Bible belt, like half the people I've talked to about guns have complained that you aren't allowed to shoot an intruder until they directly assault your person, not just them being on your property or inside the house taking stuff. Legit upset they can't value their possessions more than another human life.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

The person I'm talking to said they don't care how bad the crime is, just how much police do about it. So yeah, they don't care about crime or safety, they just care about violence.

[-] Death_Equity@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Guns, crime, and lower taxes. California, Oregon, Illinois, and NY are gun unfriendly, have barely enforced crime, and higher taxes. Texas and Florida are both gun friendly, actually enforce laws, and have lower taxes.

Californians leaving California because of the state of California and voting to make their new state more like California is peak Californian cognitive dissonance.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Please provide evidence that all of Florida and Texas have lower crime than all of Illinois, California, Oregon and New York.

And yeah, I'm not surprised guns was your main criterion, even before crime and taxes. Gotta have the precious.

[-] Death_Equity@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Not crime rate, enforcement.

Guns were the reason you gave, so that came first.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

So it doesn't matter how much crime there is, it only matters how many people arrested there are? That's your metric?

[-] bamboo@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Enforcement metrics just show the rate that minorities get harassed by cops and aren’t proportional to crime itself. Crime statistics, unless comparing the same crime per-capita (ie, homicides per 100,000) tend to reflect the amount of regular activities criminalized rather than the number of harmful acts done by individuals (ie, make a drug that many people have a crime, and now you have more crime and more criminals).

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