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Mike Pence is a national hero. he knew about these and said he wouldn't accept them even if delivered. he stood strong when thousands outside wanted to lynch him. As much as I don't agree with him, he is a true patriot. I don't think he gets enough credit. without his backbone we would be in an even crazier place.
Darth Vader didn't stop being a villain just because he killed the Emperor.
Pence did one good thing after years of killing Younglings.
Do I despise Pence for all the shit he did to enable Trump? Yep. Do I applaud him for doing the right thing when it REALLY mattered? You better bet I do. If he kept doing the right thing and spoke truth to power in the face of repercussions I’d think he’d be entitled to be given the respect he’d deserve. People can change and we have to respect it when they do. Do I think Pence would keep doing the right thing? I have no idea but I wouldn’t bet on it. Would he be a better president than Trump? Well just being a functioning adult would qualify. Would that make him a good president? I doubt it. Everybody applauds Reagan but in hindsight he did almost irreparable harm to this country. Some would disagree with me and that’s their right to be wrong 😋
Hero is too strong a word. It took far too long for him to tell anyone what happened and he hasn't once called out Trump for being a traitor or trying to overthrow our democracy. During the Republican debates this year he agreed he'd endorse the Republican candidate regardless of who it was, including Trump.
Pence could have been a hero but he's tried too hard to stay in the middle and not offend the MAGAts when we've really needed the truth.
Pence just had a few more braincells than the rest in knowing the consequences of this action versus the probability of it actually succeeding. He's no hero. He's no Patriot. As always, he is a self-serving sociopath.
Sometimes I wonder if that's all it takes. For all the stories and myths we have celebrating selfless heroism, perhaps it's often well placed self preservation.
Hero is the wrong word. He did the bare minimum as to not be a traitor. Which is something I guess given the state of the GOP.
Such a low bar to clear. Don't commit treason and follow a would be dictator, and have people call you a hero. Sheesh
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