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[-] spiderkle@lemmy.ca 15 points 11 months ago

He makes fun of everyone, that's always been his thing. The problem isn't about him being unfair to one specific minority. The problem is demanding censorship or cancellation just because something offends your personal sensibilities.

I'd much rather have comedians talk shit about everyone including their own peers and ethnic groups, than live in a world of dulled down, censored content. Fuck everyone equally!

[-] ampcold@beehaw.org 57 points 11 months ago

He isn’t being censored. He has the right to say these things , but everyone else also has the right given by free speech to criticize him. That is not censorship or being cancelled. That is simply how free speech works. Having the right to free speech doesn’t protect anyone from criticism

[-] chaos@beehaw.org 44 points 11 months ago

The problem is the jokes aren't funny. Or even really jokes. It's just the same hateful garbage that you'll find in any right wing comment section with no clever twist or respect for the humanity of the people being made fun of. It's all variations on "haw haw, these people are pretending to be something they're not, ew gross". It's not true, it's not "keeping it real", it's not insightful, and anyone who actually knows or cares about the trans community knows that hearing that all the time will drive some people to kill themselves. Maybe even worse than that, it'll foster that attitude in people even less compassionate that Dave Chappelle, who I don't think has any particular malice toward individual trans people, but he's telling those who do that they're right.

There's definitely humor to be had about the trans community, just visit any trans meme board and you'll find it. There are stereotypes and self-deprecation and tons of really dark humor going on. What's coming out of Chappelle's mouth isn't that, it's just undercooked right wing bigotry.

[-] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 38 points 11 months ago

When there isn't a genocide in the works maybe that'd be true. But why not let him rather make jokes about the Palestinian kids being murdered, because fuck everyone right? It shows your utter disconnect from the matter. It's fine that he punches down as long as it's not you that's being punched down on and having your right to be alive eroded every day while more and more hate murders happen to trans people, because that's so funny right? Haha fuck them... You don't sound like you're really marginalised at all, nor persecuted for being alive, so I think until you are, people with your viewpoint should just stfu.

[-] araneae@beehaw.org 31 points 11 months ago

I think people might be getting tired of the "I have no respect for anyone or anything no matter how delicate, bad taste and shit stirring are funny haha, isn't it cool to be uselessly disruptive and cruel" thing in general. As someone gender non-conforming, fuck Dave Chapel, but I suspect he's a canary in the mine for a sea change in the kind of jokes people enjoy in this crushing scary and depressing era. It doesn't help he is making fun of a group Republicans are openly plotting to oppress if not erase. You know. Like some sort of coward who goes after acceptable targets and doubles down despite the backlash because they are so very lucrative in their exploitability. As a plus, he's getting in on the ground floor of the Nazi-lite entertainer-to-propagandist operation, so he will be forging connections with everyone who keeps getting cancelled by wokescolds. When that starts happening to one of these weak willed celebrities, they end up tripling down on their weakest character traits and circling wagons with the worst fuckers alive.

If you're a fan of Chappelle's, all you can do for him is email or tweet him that you think he's being cringe. He's not going to stop otherwise, he's being/has been inducted into the canceled club for free thinkers and he-says-what-were-all-thinking right wingers.

[-] DessertStorms@kbin.social 5 points 11 months ago

The problem isn’t about him being unfair to one specific minority.

Yes. Yes it is.
You also not giving a shit about marginalised people don't magically make bigotry ok.

https://genderbitch.wordpress.com/2011/04/02/words-offense/

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