How the term “genocide” is misused in the Israel-Hamas war (www.economist.com)

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I used to like The Economist, but this is Nazis propaganda right on their page.

Israel, by contrast, does not meet the test of genocide. There is little evidence that Israel, like Hamas, “intends” to destroy an ethnic group—the Palestinians. Israel does want to destroy Hamas, a militant group, and is prepared to kill many civilians in doing so. While some Israeli extremists might want to eradicate the Palestinians, that is not a government policy.

This is not okay. This is Nazi logic. Nazi, fascist logic, from The Economist.

Even Nazi Germany did not make killing the official "intention" or government policy in my understanding. At least not always. It was announced as a safety guarantee, for example.

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[-] tardigrada@beehaw.org 11 points 11 months ago

In Israeli army camps, Gazan detainees subjected to torture and degrading treatment

New testimonies concerning the systematic torture and inhumane treatment meted out to Palestinian detainees in Israeli army camps—some of whom have been forcibly disappeared from the Gaza Strip—have been received by Euro-Med Human Rights Monitor.

The Israeli army and Shin Bet investigators have treated the Palestinian detainees like “non-human animals”, according to testimonies received by Euro-Med Monitor from newly-released people who spent several days in Israeli custody.

The majority of the horrific torture operations, according to the testimonies, start as soon as people are taken from their homes or asylum centres, where many Gazans are sheltering from the ongoing Israeli attacks. Soldiers then beat the detained people and strip them naked, except for their undergarments, forcing them to sit on their knees in the street for hours while being harassed and treated with contempt.

It's should be unnecessary to say, but as here are some 'whataboutists' around: yes, Hamas is terrorist organisation. And so is the Israeli right-wing, racist government of Benjamin Netanyahu. There is no difference between the two.

[-] astral_avocado@lemm.ee 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The stripping of clothes is done to determine whether they have a bomb vest on, which is a 100% legitimate concern with Hamas who has used adults and children for suicide bombers. I don't understand why this is so hard for people to grasp.

[-] tardigrada@beehaw.org 13 points 11 months ago

@astral_avocado, you appear to have (intentionally?) missed some details.

strip them naked [...] forcing them to sit on their knees in the street for hours while being harassed and treated with contempt.

How many hours does it take to "determine whether they have a bomb vest on," especially when they are naked?

Why exactly do they do that while people sit on their knees in the streets and treated with contempt?

This is really hard to grasp, maybe you can enlighten me.

[-] PaddleMaster@beehaw.org 3 points 11 months ago

I don’t understand why some people work so hard to fight others on this. I share your opinion. The victims are the civilians who end up suffering for these terrorists who don’t represent them.

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