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Marlene Engelhorn says that when she inherited her grandmother's multimillion-dollar fortune in 2022, she "wanted to be happy about it."

"And I couldn't be," the Austrian heiress told As It Happens host Nil Köksal. "I was angry instead … because I knew it was really unfair, and there was no reason for me to get this that I could really justify."

Engelhorn has long campaigned for greater taxes on the wealthy in Austria, including an inheritance tax. But since the government won't redistribute her wealth for her, she says she's asking the people do it.

Engelhorn is giving €25 million ($36.5 million Cdn) — which she says is the vast majority of her inheritance — to a committee of Austrian residents tasked with using it to fight wealth inequality.

"I am only wealthy because I was born in a rich family. And I think in a democratic society of the 21st century, birth should not be the one thing that determines whether or not you're gonna get to lead a very good life," Engelhorn said.

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[-] Custoslibera@lemmy.world 70 points 11 months ago

Class traitors are necessary to bring about a state of communism.

This type of behaviour should be encouraged.

[-] loopedcandle@lemmynsfw.com 31 points 11 months ago

There is a solid counter argument here (to play devil's advocate). This is what a right wing American would say to this:

See, we don't have to tax the rich, they're so generous. It's more efficient to let them have their money and donate it directly to causes. The federal government is so bad at allocating wealth, reducing taxes so more people can be like her is the way to go.

If the person above is not wealthy themselves, the following thought to this is Well, when I'm inevitably wealthy because of how great I am, I don't want the government taxing me so I can be like her.

Then they pat themselves on the back for being so ((in an impossible future)) generous.

It's worth thinking about how to counter this argument.

[-] Custoslibera@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

People have conscious and unconscious biases.

They are prejudiced and can’t allocate money objectively. This woman is directing the use of this money even though that may not be the best use of the money.

When you look at this on a macro scale, what is the system we have for allocating resources across an entire country? Government.

Is it perfect? No, but it doesn’t change the fact the most efficient and objective means we have is government.

In short, I don’t want a system where a huge racist can accumulate vast wealth and society has the prevailing view that this racist will be altruistic through some mystical force.

[-] azan@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

It's important to think about the counterargument, I agree.

To counter your counterargument: it's not a good argument on many levels (scope, allocation, distribution mechanism, effect). The main reason is that this sort of charity doesn't improve the core problem of low(er) social mobility. The opportunity to pursue self-development/self-fulfillment should not be tied to the whimsical act of a better-off person but presented to everyone as equal as possible - through common goods and services. The impossible future is impossible due to vastly different prerequisites. The person's "greatness" will never be seen, as most likely they will never be presented with the opportunity to display it.

[-] Siegfried@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Class traitors are neccesary to keep capitalism working.

I like how you people that has access to internet and lives in countries that nourishes themself from the rest of the world think of yourself as part of the base of society. When the bells start ringing we are the second in line to be purged.

[-] PugJesus@kbin.social 7 points 11 months ago

I like how you people that has access to internet and lives in countries that nourishes themself from the rest of the world think of yourself as part of the base of society. When the bells start ringing we are the second in line to be purged.

Imagine being this brainrotted.

[-] dezmd@lemmy.world -3 points 11 months ago

Imagine not realizing even you might be one of the baddies.

Enlightenments, self awareness, public engagement, and compassion for others, does not make any of us exceptions when you zoom out far enough.

Food, internet, air conditioning. You might not be rich, but you are to someone.

[-] PugJesus@kbin.social 7 points 11 months ago

The majority of the world has internet access, dumbass.

Imagine going from "Workers of the world unite!" to "Actually, YOU workers are too Western, you deserve the noose!"

[-] Siegfried@lemmy.world -4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Sorry, i didnt realize you came from the third world my apologies.

And here is a link with internet access around the world https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_number_of_Internet_users

[-] nyctre@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Your link says that around 66% of the world population and around 60% of people in developing countries have internet access. That sounds like a majority to me? Maybe I'm misreading your tone but it sounds like you're disagreeing.

[-] Custoslibera@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

That just reenforces the need for betraying class.

People in those western countries have to find solidarity with the worker, whichever country they are in.

Although I don’t think having internet access and living in a capitalist country automatically makes you bourgeoise.

[-] MaxVoltage@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

this nobles woman makes me communis loines moist

[-] Copernican@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

What does this gesture do to I pact the means of production and labor to push towards a state of communism?

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