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It's not about Hamas. Without Hamas, there still would be a forced displacment and killing of civilian who stayed in Gaza, like there were before Hamas.
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The blockade in its current form is because of Hamas, there was a far less restrictive blockade before they were elected. Without Hamas there is no October 7th, which means no war and no airstrikes.
It's possible that they just would have chosen a different terrorist group dedicated to genocide of Jews to back though, as they have historically. It's hard to know what lies on the path not traveled.
seems pretty obvious that there was a blockade before october 7, so it's not possible that october 7 was the start of anything.
The blockade was put in place when Israel unilaterally withdrew from Gaza to maintain Israel's safety, and a more restrictive one implemented when Hamas was elected. Turns out it was a pretty good idea to have security at this border and to deny them resources with which they can attack Israel. October 7th was proof that it was insufficient, and it represents a start to this war and to the bombing. Gaza fared quite better before this unprovoked attack.
a blockade is an act of war.
Indeed it can be, a blockade against Israel caused the 6-day war. The difference is, Hamas' cannot win, they can just poke the bear.
so Israel started this long before Oct 7
If you want to follow the causal chain all the way back to its source, this conflict started when Arab nationalists started murdering Jews for legally buying land in the Levant.
it's a ghetto with military-enforced borders. what would you do to the people keeping you caged?
Seemed pretty nice for a, "ghetto," and an, "open-air prison."
Can I defeat them militarily? If so I'd do that, if I can't I'd make peace and get the best terms I can. Palestine cannot win through violence.
your propaganda piece doesn't relieve the blockade, free the people arrested without trial or charge, or open the border.
it's a prison.
insurgencies win by attrition.
that just isn't something i'd do. personally, i'd wage an insurgency. i think anyone who chose to do that would be justified.
this is deflecting from the blockade that people have been living under with no end in sight. it's an open air prison: of course they tried to attack their jailers
if someone tells me they don't want me around, i don't stick around
legality does not determine morality.
i don't believe you