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It’s not okay when anyone says it, have you even read the other comments here?
It depends on how it's said. Is it said as part of an effort to build a multicultural / religious state or part of an effort to rid the region of other ethnicities?
Well yes, a two state solution will never work but building a new cooperative nation isn’t stretching the borders of either current party
It worked with Native Americans, it worked in South Africa.
One of Rome's tyrant emperor's, Caracalla, granted citizenship to a huge swath of the empire because vesting populations is stabilizing.
But yea, lets continue the current regimen of apartheid because that keeping the region so safe...
The two state solution is going to continue what we have now where they kill each other over the border because neither side is going to be content with it
If you trust in Hamas, at least you can distrust Netanyahu
Why would you assume I trust any Hamas sources when I can just listen to Israeli leaders openly call for genecide? Also Hamas is a corpse of a regime who the West pretends is still alive to justify the genecide. My fear is the power vacuum will be replaced with something much worse. The Iraq war all over again.
I wouldn't count out a one state solution eventually. As this genecide and looming regional conflicts isolate Israeli politicians. Because let's not forget, it's leadership not civilians that create these horrible events.
These horrible events have Israeli public support so...
If the Israeli public had an honest discourse, they would pick peace over the perpetual terror their government creates. It takes a lot of proganda to make people vote against their own interests. Just remember all the American support the 2nd Iraq war started at only for that to collapse as people realized the Bush administration was loaded with war criminals.
It's a little different because as far as Israel is concerned, this war is normal. It's an extension of the status quo that Israel as a country and a people has already accepted since 1949 and never changed it since, not when they elected Netanyahu in 1996, not when they kept reelecting him for 20 years. And support for the right wing is rising, not falling. That's different in America because in America a war in the Middle East is not the status quo. If you wanna compare compare to Native Americans and European settlers.
What I'm trying to say is: If we wait for Israelis to realize that genocide is bad on their own, the best we'll get is some crocodile tears and an apology from their Lebensraum to what few Palestinians remain after they successfully genocide them. Don't expect much from the Israeli public on that front; these people want their Zion.
Israel is an American project with a weird caveat, their government is allowed to influence our elections to send tens of billions in aid back to Israel.
That will ultimately be their downfall when that money dries up. People revolt when their lifestyle drops significantly. An isolated IDF can't afford to genecide both Muslim and Jew.