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[-] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 75 points 11 months ago

If only the US lacked the corruption...

[-] Tak@lemmy.ml 48 points 11 months ago

It's not corruption, it's working as intended. The citizens united case ruled that paying off legislators is equivalent to voting. We literally live in a textbook oligarchy, this is how it works and it's working by design that way.

[-] 4am@lemm.ee 40 points 11 months ago

I feel like your point is almost excusing it. Just because the corruption is working doesn’t mean it’s not corruption.

[-] Tak@lemmy.ml 15 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It's more that corruption is to say the system isn't supposed to work this way.

corruption noun cor·​rup·​tion kə-ˈrəp-shən Synonyms of corruption 1 a : dishonest or illegal behavior especially by powerful people (such as government officials or police officers) : depravity b : inducement to wrong by improper or unlawful means (such as bribery) the corruption of government officials c : a departure from the original or from what is pure or correct the corruption of a text the corruption of computer files d : decay, decomposition the corruption of a carcass

It's not dishonest or illegal behavior. It is entirely within the fucked up letter of the law. Systemic change is needed not purity.

[-] ripcord@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

The letter of the law being what it is due to corruption.

[-] Tak@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It's really not if you read the constitution you'll see how it gives power to the elites/ruling class and why the anti federalists opposed the constitution.

[-] BakerBagel@midwest.social 6 points 11 months ago

It's not an excuse. The system isnt broken and needs to be reformed. The system is working as intended and needs to be abolished.

[-] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Nah, that's just the typical small mindset that things should be cast away just because they have problems.

Like police. We NEED police, just not the same organization we currently have, and certainly not a police force that intermingles violent and non-violent events. We need police who don't reach for a gun and we need police who can deal with armed criminals.

The economy can be fixed. We just need a government with the balls to actually tax rich assholes and fund social services.

[-] bazmatazable@reddthat.com 1 points 11 months ago

The wealthy actively lobby for tax breaks and relaxed regulation meanwhile the working majority don't seem to be able to stand together and demand social programs or protections from big businesses. The government is not corrupt for delivering the change that is asked if it. Easier said than done but change for the better is possible.

[-] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

When things are so bad that corruption is legalized and encouraged, it doesn't stop being corruption.

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