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submitted 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) by yay@lemmynsfw.com to c/lemmynsfw@lemmynsfw.com

There are issues that have been on my mind for a few days, and I wanted to talk about them with you.

Downvotes

As you may notice, downvotes have been completely off for the last few days. I did this because I couldn't resist the pressure of some friends :/ I still don't know what to do about this. The majority of members probably want it to be completely open. As mods, posters and admins; some think it should be closed, some think it should be restricted (I guess).

I guess there is no solution that makes everyone happy. I realized I don't have admin skills in stressful situations, I'm a fucking stupid lol :D I miss @gabe so much.

lemmyposter212 suggested "fuzzy votes" or something that can work for us too. I think I'll just ghost this issue for a while.

Donations

As you know, all our donation accounts have been closed. Since it was my first time opening a site in the NSFW area, I had no experience. I reviewed some adult donation sites but most of them were shady. Honestly I couldn't trust them.

There are only coins now. But I guess most people don't want to deal with coins. It is because I didn't get any donations about 4 months now :D Those sent from Github Sponsor or Patreon were also returned to donators as well. I received $200-ish donations so far.

We are currently the 2nd largest instance in Lemmy. After lemmy.world, we're bigger than lemmy.ml and lemm.ee! I don't think it will work this way anymore. On an annual basis, I need to spend a month's salary for Lemmy NSFW.

Does anyone have an idea to solve this problem?

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[-] WooBoy@lemmynsfw.com 26 points 11 months ago

Thanks so much for the work you're doing here! As a reddit refugee, I really appreciate it! You're doing a great job ๐Ÿ˜

As someone who posts OC, I prefer not having downvotes. We post pictures of ourselves and were getting downvoted due to our not being conventionally attractive (presumably). It was very disheartening.

It makes me more likely to post here with their not being downvotes.

You shouldn't have to put your own money into this, unless you really want to. I would be willing to make a donation if you can find a payment processor.

[-] yay@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 11 months ago

That's good to know. Thanks :)

[-] Ludrol@szmer.info 2 points 11 months ago

Hey just letting you know as this post was SFW it got federated into SFW space and I got jumpscared by your profile picture. Would you kindly change it?

[-] jumpingjack@lemmynsfw.com 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

if you have lemmynsfw.com federated into your instance I wouldn't consider your space to be SFW regardless of what settings you're using. I know it's suppose to be safer with certain precautions but nothing is guaranteed (some sfwish content isn't exactly really sfw like the celebrity sections) and protecting yourself is more proactive than coming onto a nsfw instance and informing someone else that they should change their profile picture. Instructions on how to block an entire instance can be found here. There are other apps and ways in which to do it as well, if need be I will help you find the resources to solve your dilemma. Also your comment comes off as kinda negative with the jumpscare comment and also asking someone else to fix your problem (there are plenty of profile pics on this instance you would probably find non-agreeable and asking everyone to change for your sensibilities while viewing a social media platform which allows said pictures is arrogant).

[-] Ludrol@szmer.info 3 points 11 months ago

I know I could block a specific user and it is good that now we have a per user instance blocking, but it is a problem of the whole platform. Technically with 18+ screens there is a consent given to be exposed to explicit imagery. I didn't give that consent and this gave me huge revulsion, and it spiralled into a negative comment.

Now I don't want to do a solution but the best solution. Blocking and defederating by user are highly local and only affect me. I don't want for someone to change a profile picture for me on another instance where the rules are diffrent.

Now should whole SFW lemmy defederate from NSFW instance as we don't check if the user is 18+ or not.(And it is legally required) Or should lemmy implement a feature where avatars are marked NSFW and not rendered for users under 18 and that already didn't consent to this type of content.

[-] jumpingjack@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 11 months ago

Again, your lack of common courtesy for another human beings body is abysmal with your comments. There is a solution, as has been provided, but you've decided to ignore it because the "best solution" is you pushing the problem onto someone else to solve yet again. The differences in instances and their decisions to be federated is not in the scope of these comments nor what's being debated. As a general rule of thumb I would treat any social media platform (including youtube) as NSFW. There is never a guarantee with algorithms, ads, and content being posted by users. Always use discretion when viewing online content in a public space, your safety begins with your own actions.

[-] Ludrol@szmer.info 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Human body disgusts me, and I am entitled to have this feeling as I am a human.

I choose to use a sfw instance and I expect systems to respect my choice. If some malicious actor posts NSFW stuff then ok. There is a report button and moderation will remove it as it is against the rules.

~~But in this situation there isn't a clear viaiolation of rules. So I need to change the system itself. This is open source. I can change stuff and I will.~~

Actually lemmynsfw.com prohibits nsfw avatars under temporary rule no. 1

I will just report that.

~~I will defederate on the instance that I am an admin of. I will petition for defederation on instance that I am using. I will open a github issue and make my case for developers. I won't make a PR as it beyond my skill level but that is just a skill issue.~~

[-] jumpingjack@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 11 months ago

Your entitlement to your feelings doesn't dissolve you from abhorrent public comments. At least now you have a proper avenue in which to address your issues with the information you have found. I hope you look for such paths in the future instead of the nasty comments you made hastily. Again, you can expect a system to respect your choice but that doesn't mean you will be protected by said system. I hope the great devs that continue to improve this platform are able to address the nsfw avatar as many can have profiles which may offend others.

this post was submitted on 26 Jan 2024
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