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Fox hosts forced to grudgingly admit economy booming under Biden
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Fuck the economy. Make my goddamn grocery bill go down. Make the fucking rent go down. I'm so sick of the rich dictating every aspect of my life while I barely get by all so they can tell me "everything's great!"
The economy is booming because of all the money corporations are charging you for your food and rent.
Oh I'm aware.
Why do you want to hurt the economy...
Why wouldn't you?
My job is laying off people every 6-12 months despite having immense reserves of wealth. Remind me how great the economy is?
Man, it's so great right now. Mark Zuckerberg increased his wealth by $29 billion just yesterday! People with fat stock portfolios are coming in here to tell us we're wrong about the economy! It's awesome!
Ding ding! Record profits? Use a single measley lawsuit and rebrand+spin off your debt and liability, file for bankruptcy and live the American dream.
Do you set fire to them or just fire them? Your username is a little disturbing in this context...
In tech by any chance?
God I hate how insular tech workers are. Anything that happens in tech, they think happens universally.
When the economy was tanking and tech was doing great: "the economy is very fair and just, you need to work harder bootstraps blah blah"
When house prices soared: "just buy a house in the middle of nowhere for dirt cheap and keep making your big city salary like me!"
Now the economy is doing great and tech is finally experiencing a correction: "omg the sky is falling!!"
These things are actually the things that make up the economy.
The problematic thing with inflation is that when people get a pay raise they think it's not because the economy improved, it's because they worked hard for that pay raise. Sure no one's disputing that you worked hard, but if you worked hard and the economy didn't improve you wouldn't have gotten that pay raise.
And yeah food prices are high. Something about a land war in the part of Europe that produces a lot of the global grain supply may have something to do with that. That situation would be resolved sooner if the GOP stopped blocking the funding to go towards ending that situation sooner.
Real estate... yeah that's because the rich suck. Gotta tax those bastards so they don't keep dumping their excess wealth into real estate which drives up prices. But again, the GOP isn't going to approve of that.
Biden has done insanely well on the economy despite the efforts of the GOP to sabotage him.
So be angry, but know who to be angry at. The guys blocking things have a majority in congress and has the filibuster in the Senate. Maybe that should change?
Typical Canadian balderdash!
My anger is aimed squarely at the correct people and things. I know how this shit show works. People making minimum wage, you know the largest group of earners, hasn't had a raise regardless of the "economy" in nearly 15 years barring a few blue states. This country grows tons of food that just gets shipped off or used for plastic so if grain production is the issue it's a logistics issue and not a supply issue. Our government is ineffective for the average person. It's amazingly effective for the rich and corps. There is nothing we can do about it either because voting is a performative act instead of a meaningful one. Our 2 presidential candidates are thousand year old dust factories. They're supported by either 100 year old dust factories or younger sociopaths who are only in it for power and money. At the local level it's meaningless because of you're in a red area there's no way to win and if you're in a blue area everyone's too busy patting each other on the back for not being red that they still don't fucking do a good job.
The problem isn't me being angry, it's that more people aren't.
Edit: I was wrong about the number of minimum wage workers.
People making minimum wage are not the largest group of earners, its actually a very tiny minority of workers that earn the minimum wage.
This person just wants to be angry. They haven't proposed anything useful or mentioned anything possible to change. They might feel bad and not vote.
Don't let them pull you down to their level. Even if you're depressed about the state of things, vote anyway. The people causing the problems want you to be depressed and not vote. Vote anyway. You can still complain later.
Edit: told you
Don't put words in my mouth. I do my civic duty. And you want a solution? Burn it to ash and rebuild it.
That is not your civic duty.
Let's keep doing things the way we're doing them then. I'm sure will be able to vote in change...
Give us a Democratic supermajority, and we will rock your world with positive effects. That's what we're asking. It's not a "just keep voting" thing, it's a specific goal: we need enough Democrats in the legislature to override Republicans.
Do you assume I don't vote blue?
No. I'm not prescribing any specific actions because that will depend on your area. In general:
The goal is democratic supermajority. However you can best help achieve that, please do.
Lockheed Martin and company along with the politicians they own perpetuating endless war, leading us into the abyss while chasing short term profits.
Both the Gaza war and the Ukraine war are inflationary pressures and the US is pumping billions of dollars into both.
Go back to Russia
closest i've ever been to russia is reading crime and punishment
you've been convinced war = good but it doesn't have to be that way
Says the guy shilling for a country that invaded their neighbor rofl
I'm an American citizen, not a Russian. Therefore I care about American policy because it's the one I have a modicum of influence in.
Russia invaded Ukraine - they are the aggressor. However, it doesn't follow from that statement that we should send billions of dollars worth of killing machines to Ukraine.
Our actions have a) funneled over $150 billion dollars worth of $$$ from public hands (our taxes) into the hands of wealthy private corporations. Go and look up how the stock price for Lockheed Martin reacted to the invasion in 2022.
b) prolonged a war which will inevitably end with Russia taking territory. This has two consequences
like Chomsky says we are "fighting to the last Ukrainian". We are absolutely fucking the demographics of a country for the next century if not more. The rebuilding costs will be over 3x what we've spent so far - and ill eat my shoe if the benevolent Western countries are going to foot the bill.
this prolonging has caused global economic mayhem and it looks like it's going to cost the Dems the election - bringing us Trump and a further fall into fascism.
We are sacrificing the world for $$$. Capitalism is killing itself. It's as if we are trying to replicate the 20th century.
Hahahaha
From your own arguments, we are actually sacrificing $$$ for the world, not the other way around. I'm happy for my tax dollars to pay to rein in the aggression of Russia and maintain the independence of Ukraine. Fuck Russia. Slava Ukraine. We should be sending them more.
so easy to beat the war drums when the hundreds of thousands of young men dying aren't you, right?
at this point i'm convinced you're a bot because you have said nothing meaningful or original up to this point
Ask the citizens of Ukraine.
again - we are not helping ukraine out of the goodness of our hearts
the only purpose is a) funnel as much money as possible into private hands and b) make Russia bleed for every inch of territory they are going to inevitably take
i don't care what ukrainians say. they're under invasion, of course they're going to want to fight the invaders. does that mean we need to pump money onto every single country that's been subjected to injustice?
artificially propping up Ukraine so they can get destroyed for a longer period of time is not good for Ukraine. the end result is going to be russia annexing eastern ukraine. regardless of how much $$$ we give our defense contractors. why should hundreds of thousands of additional young men die for nothing?
it's absurd we throw away so many lives for nothing. stop pretending like you give a shit about the people of ukraine. we are facilitating their destruction
In your wet tankie dreams lol
you don't understand the words you use. i realize now you're probably a teenager, not a bot.
Fyi, the US president cannot set prices for these things.
That said, he's trying, using what power he does have.
https://www.reuters.com/business/retail-consumer/grocery-stores-should-cut-prices-costs-ease-biden-white-house-says-2024-02-02/
No he's not trying. He's giving the appearance of trying just in time for 2024. Do you really think Biden is going to take on Blackrock?
Slim chance but still better than the odds of the republicans doing it.
I wouldn’t get your hopes up on substantially lower grocery bills.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2024/02/02/grocery-price-inflation-biden/
Oh what a bunch of bullshit. They're gonna blame COVID for everything for the rest of time instead of corporate greed because the same fucking corporations have bought and paid for our entire government.
Also, greed.
How dare people need to eat
That's not what that says at all.
What it says is that people are feeling more flush with cash and are opting for higher end brands of food over the store brands or nicer cuts of steak or going out to a nicer restaurant instead of just hitting up McDonald's or shoneys. This is proof that the economy is doing well.
Flush with cash, my ass. Also, mcdonalds is expensive as fuck.
is not a good source of data.
If you think mcds is expensive you clearly don't know how to eat there and you've definitely not eaten anywhere with real food. I try to keep my mcds to a min but when I am working and need something I can get out of there with spending like $6 tops, $8+ if I am feeling "fancy" and grab a frozen coffee with an extra shot.
You've also definitely not noticed how packed even the more expensive steak houses are at pretty much all open hours. I'm talking the places where you can't spend less than $200 for a meal for two.
I drive for a living and I can tell you for a fact (in my neck of the woods) that the economy is doing just fine, people are doing okay, not as great as they could/should be but most definitely aren't at poverty level.
You lot need to start getting your data from sources that aren't biased and aren't trying to keep you pissed off so you keep reading the bullshit they call news.
The stock market hasn't been a good indicator of the economy for decades now. What is an indicator is what I was correcting a misinterpretation of. If you want to see how the economy is doing in your area, drive around downtown or the other hotspots like music venues and restaurants in the evenings and see how packed it is.
Mcdonalds is expensive for what you get. I don't eat at steakhouses because they're similarly overpriced. When I go out to eat, I do so to eat things that are more difficult or time-consuming to make at home and steak is among the easiest. Anyway, the fun part about judging the economy based on how packed venues and restaurants are is that credit goes a long way until it doesn't. Credit card debt and delinquencies are climbing.
He's working on that too actually.