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[-] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 0 points 11 months ago

the work that goes into mining those blocks should be discounted by the amount of energy that goes into mining every other merge-mined chain

[-] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

ok, so either ~1% figure already discounts this energy due to merge-mining, or it doesn't discount and the effective energy consumption of Doge is lower. The original point remains: Bitcoin is pretty much the energetic problem of crypto, .

[-] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 0 points 11 months ago

asic miners are the problem with crypto's energy consumption. nothing is wrong the the bitcoin protocol, which is functioning as expected.

[-] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

it's just that PoW is trash when applied at scale for encouraging energy use to create consensus - and that's by design - so indeed, "there's something wrong with the protocol".

[-] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 1 points 11 months ago

you seem to understand that the protocol can function without the massive power use but you seem to want to blame the protocol for the power use.

at this point, we have to agree to disagree.

have a nice day

[-] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

the protocol can function without the massive power use

At scale no, it can't and that'll never be the case because at any given time, someone will be willing to put more energy (work) into it to gain an advantage - so as long as there's demand for that coin, PoW will always demand huge amounts of energy.

And yes, I do blame the consensus protocol because ultimately that's the culprit of causing this incentive to waste energy and targeting miners or any other actors is an utter waste of time.

[-] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 1 points 11 months ago

> at any given time, someone will be willing to put more energy (work) into it to gain an advantage

that's not a problem with the protocol. that's a problem with people. that's like saying that houses are a problem because people rent them to exploit the working class. the problem isn't the house, it's the people who try to buy all the houses.

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